Can Homey learn IR codes?

But I still want it to learn new things.
Like the LG TV Service (Instart) Command.

How should I do this now?

As said this isn’t an option anymore.

  1. find your device in the new database
  2. report your device to Athom to get it added
  3. create a app for Homey for this device
  4. buy another IR device compatible with Homey like the Harmony Hub or Broadlink to learn and use IR signals.

Hi. Can an IR still be used to trigger a flow?
This is something I used with my old original Homey ( unfortunately it died a number of months back)
I’ve been trying to get a Homey Pro to replace it but struggling to find stock

I previously used my Philips Pronto IR remote to send a IR code to Homey to trigger via a flow Philips Hue scenes

Is this still possible?

Chris

Interesting, they kept this option still

https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/signals

obrazek

Hi Stephan.

I guess the most relevant question to ask is has this new IR database solved your problem . ? Does your setup now work ?

Athom are so confident in this new IR database that they have entirely removed the IR learning feature from the system in this new firmware release …

Not that this feature actually worked anyway. :disappointed:

This feature has been broken since 2018 from what I’ve heard, or they possibly decommissioned it but lazily left it on the system to just rot away. …

Either way I’ve tried using it myself for the last year or two. It has never worked . You “could” learn an IR code (while the feature existed). Your Homey Pro would verify that it learnt the code via a test . That part worked perfectly fine. Homey could learn the codes no problem at all but you just couldn’t do anything with them The learnt code would not work in a flow or with anything at al . It was learnt , you just couldn’t use it …

I wasted so many frustrating hours trying to figure out why it wouldn’t work. There must of been thousands of people like me that went though the same process to find out that it was a zombie feature that didn’t actually work … So many hours wasted screwing around to find it was a dud…

Now the whole feature has been completely deleted …

Homey has so much potential as being an “all in one” centralised solution ., eg. Throw all your other hardware bridges and hubs away and just have one simplified system… That’s what the marketing told me anyway …

I simply can’t understand why Athom deleted the IR learning capability. It’s totally illogical… The more features the better. A centralised IOT hub with the most features win’s the race … Thats what I thought anyway…

The answer , go buy another hub / bridge to make your IR devices work even though Homey Pro has IR built in …

If you do reply to my post Stephan you’ll have to do it with in 14 days as one of the mod’s on here has set this thread to automatically delete in 14 days.

I’ve been on this forum for nearly two years now and have never seen an auto deletion of a thread, ever …

That’s interesting…

Hi Sorry to confuse you, Maybe I should have explained it but expected it would be understand by who noticed it and not seen by who doesn’t care.

First: It is an auto close, not an delete … You can’t reply to it after that and will not rank high in search.
Second, No Hurry. Just search there are a lot topics about IR (Probably 50+) and if none fit create a new topic. but sure if you ask help somewhere here @Russell_S and many others will reply …

The reason to (auto) close:

often we see things like:

This topic: Can Homey learn IR codes?
created march 2019 was how to Learn IR Codes from Homey and was answered in the first couple of reply’s - (Pre Firmware Version 2.0) was declared Experimental, somewhat hidden and updated in Firmware ~ 2.0 (10 MONTHS LATER) and answered again.
and yes:
2 YEARS LATER
I expect this is the final answer:

No, this (Experimental) feature is removed in FW version 7.2.0. Homey can’t learn IR codes.

And despite what everyone thinks about it or wants… pretty sure the answer stays the same.

I even gave the alternatives.

So I expect everything after that, is another topic.
And better discus that in other Topics!
Else new users staring reading this topic have to be 3 times disappointed, reading an answer that doesn’t work and is corrected 2 times later in this thread just to find out it is not possible.

So choose your alternative, search for the best topic and ask your question there.
This probably is the best for getting the correct answers and helping getting the correct information available for new users.

fe:
[APP][Pro] Harmony Hub (v2.0.7)

[APP][Pro] Broadlink App

[APP][Pro] Broadlinkred App

or look here: Search results for 'infrared in:title' - Homey Community Forum

And even when you think your specific question needs an new (own) Topic,
I will not be mad :wink:

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I think not out-of-the-box, but this way it is possible:

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No, the new IR database did not contain the LG code I needed.
I was however able to convert the HEX value to ProntoHex and it works when sent via Homey Developer Tools

The capture seems useless, no idea how to convert the RAW .vcd file to get anywhere near a ProntoHex code.

Edit: Capture on Homey Developer Tools DOES work!
Albeit very finicky.

Emulate/Transmit button however does not work.

I was able to capture several buttons and used IrScrutinizer to “Paste and Scrutinze” to RAW signals.
Set Export to Pronto Hex Oneshot.
And then try the ProntoHex saved to file via the IR test page above.

Takes about 3-4 captures to get a good one; but eventually you will get good ProntoHex codes!

Can you actually use it with flows though , or manual trigger it with a Virtual switch ?

This thread is about to get muffled (tomorrow) so I’m guessing that Athom’s new fancy IR date base which some on here have been promoting and glorifying turns out to be a bit of a dud.

Doest work with an LG device …(just a small time, no name manufacturer) :smirk:

As I’ve said many times before, totally relying on a database only with no IR learning capability as a back up is a fool’s errand…

70% of my gear here at home is not on the data base …

Ohh well… Athom have totally killed IR learning for good so I guess I’ll stop trying to flight for it now. It’s totally done for …

To tell you the truth I think I’m about to give up on the whole thing.

The plate-form has stagnated a lot over the last 2 years, no real progress, old issues still remain.,

Athoms attitude and bad choices (like this) are just getting worse and I truly think this Bridge\Cloud concept they are are pouring all their time and money into is going to be a commercial failure which will ultimately bankrupt them.

The future is bleak (in my opinion) but anyhoo, have a good new year everyone :sunglasses:

If IR is really the only thing you are give up for, you have chosen the wrong hub in the first place. You’d better try to get your hands on some Logitech hubs. They are really good with IR.
Then you don’t need Homey anymore.

Yep… For once I totally agree with you 100% … Have a good new year Pete …

In fact, that is a lie. You don’t and you never will. Taking a part of a complete sentence out of it’s context to make a statement is, well, wrong. Says a lot.
It will be a good year when all the azijnpissers have moved away to another brand of hub and piss their vinegar over there.

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I didn’t understand any of that ramble at all…

If you can’t constructively “debate me” on any points Ive made over the last 2 years about Athom then please politely shut the F :upside_down_face::upside_down_face::upside_down_face: up and have a good new year .:wink:

Does not help my problem where I want Homey to run a flow when it receives an IR code. Had the original Homey and the worked perfectly. Hue scenes triggered using my Tv remote.

The unit died earlier this year. Tried the new Homey bridge but found this to be totally lacking in key features and now found out the Homey Pro does not support receiving IR codes any more

If anyone has any suggestions on how I can achieve this simple integration I would love to know

Thanks

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in my post above option 4, one of the alternatives.

Thanks but none of the options work

Broadlink and Harmony can learn IR codes but only in learning mode.

What Homey used to do was “listen” for an IR code which could then be used as the trigger for a flow. I used random IR codes for a device I did not own and using my smart remote sent them to Homey to control non IR devices such as Philips Hue in a Flow

Any other suggestions really welcomed

Chris

Homey can technically handle learning IR codes via it’s built in IR hardware , but Athom (without doubt) now chose to not allow this feature … (it’s been killed)

You have to find your own solution and spend more money.

Unfortunately Chris , the work around that they try and give you here is total garbage.

Your basically spent €400 for a Smart Hub that can’t do what a cheap €10 IR bridge can do… No one on here can actually deny this fact …

As as new Homey User , how do you feel about that …?

Thanks for the comments Russell

I do feel like there are a lot of backward steps going on here. I was an early adopter of the original Homey and loved it.
Unfortunately the first thing to go was proper lightwaveRF support

My first unit failed this year and since then I have been looking for a replacement. I went for the Homey bridge but this is so limited I gave up with it

Thought I would go for the Pro but now hearing that the IR support is very limited -not sure why people would want an IR emulator?? - is so disappointing that I think my Homey days are over

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