[APP] Tuya - Connect any Tuya device with Homey (by Tuya Inc. / Athom)

[Peter_de_Vos]

Exact!

[Doekse]

@Rudi_Hendrix

why IS Tuya putting in the effort to create a free Home Assistant integration?

My previous point of contact at Tuya mentioned that some of their developers use Home Assistant as their personal smart home solution and started working on the Home Assistant integration as a side project. Maybe it’s time to consider some strategic bribery

[Rudi_Hendrix]

Yeah! Just hand over some Homey Pros to these developers.

But seriously: as a partnership manager you can do this, right? You can say without any issue:“We would like you to try our platform and enjoy the benefits”. I don’t see any harm in that!

[robertklep]

@Rudi_Hendrix

“We would like you to try our platform and enjoy the benefits”

“Oh and please forget that our founders called your products ‘garbage’ ”

[Rudi_Hendrix]

Yes please forget that part

[Grete]

No, I haven’t read 900 posts…, so maybe the answer is already there, but is there any time frame for when this app will work again?

[robertklep]

Just scroll back a few posts then…

[Sharkys]

@Grete

is there any time frame for when this app will work again

Basically this is the key info from several posts above :

@Doekse

Tuya has not been responding to any of our recent inquiries, which makes it unlikely this issue will be resolved in the near future.

@Doekse

Regarding the official Tuya App, it will likely remain available in the Homey App Store until it becomes non-functional for all users, not just new ones.

@Doekse

We are collaborating with @johan_bendz to officially support the Tuya Zigbee App he created. This will ensure that all Tuya Zigbee devices are compatible with both Homey Pro and Homey Cloud users using a Homey Bridge.

[Sven_Haitjema]

Thought the same. But went back to home assistant, using the prebuild raspberry pi image. Super stable, and till now, not a single line of yaml file written

All i said about HA stability and usability: i have to take that back. They upped their game significantly.

One of the coolest things: expose all your devices via matter and directly connect that to google home

[Rudi_Hendrix]

Ok, quick question here (that is most likely possible to lookup elsewhere as well…but I am too lazy )
If you have both HA and Homey, is it possible to import all Tuya devices connected to the HA device in Homey? Or do you then have to work with two separate systems? (In case of the latter, I think a lot of people will in the end switch to HA completely)

I would be ok with some sort of additional hub for all Tuya devices in my household if that means I can import all connected devices to Homey. Currently I somewhat have that of course, because the Tuya app is that “hub”. Only missing thing is getting it connected to Homey

[Sven_Haitjema]

Yes, however control can be limited, not all device types are supported, most will be only an on/off switch, but i think it also does scenes.

Your ha instance needs to be reachable from the internet

[robertklep]

@Sven_Haitjema

Your ha instance needs to be reachable from the internet

That’s only if you use the “official” HA integration, which I would advise against. The HA community app is much better anyway.

[Rudi_Hendrix]

Well, since the official Tuya app for Homey is dead, the basic idea was: how to work with Tuya devices from Homey while sticking closest to what is supported?

In using the HA community app, I might as well think of continuing to use the Homey Tuya Cloud community app.

[robertklep]

I don’t see why you think that the official HA app would be “closest to what is supported”. You’re going to have to set up all your imported-from-HA Tuya devices on Homey anyway, regardless of which app you use. And the community HA app supports more devices and doesn’t require to expose your HA to the rest of the world.

[Rudi_Hendrix]

Because Tuya built the HA Tuya integration, that’s why

[robertklep]

That’s irrelevant. The way the “official” HA-for-Homey app imports these devices is not related in any way to how the Tuya-for-Homey app implements its devices.

[Rudi_Hendrix]

I am not talking about the Tuya-for-Homey app.

In this construction (for Tuya) I would only use:

• The official Tuya for HA integration
• The HA-for-Homey app

And then completely forget about the Tuya-for-Homey apps (official or community for that matter)

[robertklep]

Which still doesn’t explain why “In using the HA community app, I might as well think of continuing to use the Homey Tuya Cloud community app”.

But if you don’t feel comfortable using community apps, then yes, you can use the “official” HA app (which isn’t developed by, or in cooperation with, HA) and expose your HA to the outside world. Just be aware of the security implications of doing that.

[Rudi_Hendrix]

@robertklep

Which still doesn’t explain why “In using the HA community app, I might as well think of continuing to use the Homey Tuya Cloud community app”.

Yes it does. If I use the official HA - Tuya integration it is supported by Tuya. (Like we hoped the official Homey - Tuya app would be supported by Tuya)
If I use the community HA - Tuya integration it is not supported by Tuya. So, I might as well use the community Homey - Tuya app. Either option is not supported by Tuya in that case.

@robertklep

But if you don’t feel comfortable using community apps

I am completely comfortable using community apps. However, if an official app/integration exists I prefer that.

[robertklep]

@Rudi_Hendrix

If I use the official HA - Tuya integration it is supported by Tuya. (Like we hoped the official Homey - Tuya app would be supported by Tuya)
If I use the community HA - Tuya integration it is not supported by Tuya. So, I might as well use the community Homey - Tuya app. Either option is not supported by Tuya in that case.

I guess I wasn’t perfectly clear that I meant the “official” HA-app-for-Homey and the community HA-app-for-Homey.