Should that be the case then it’s a done deal for me: no more Tuya. Plenty of competitors that do offer free 3rd party API access. Or off course even better, local access.
And for the one Tuya based device that I own: Switchbot bot.
Dear Homey team,
It is for a couple of days now that one of your official supported apps is down. Many people cannot control their devices which is frustrating. It is never a good idea to base a business relation on the informal link to an employee. There must be a sound contract in place between Homey/LG and Tuya? If note time to negotiate one now and solve the issue for the users. A clear update to the user community where we are would be very much appreciated. Should i wait till my devices can be controlled again or should i shop for alternatives? Many thanks
I sencerily don’t get it. Now they want money for it? Typical mentality. Why not put the effort of helping out the autor of the Tuya App in getting this app supporting the Tuya devices. There are many tuya gateways out there that don’t have an issue installing tuya devices, but for the Homey Pro, seems that we need to have an app and handle the features and drivers. Pitty that I am not a dev, and I am limited in what I can do for the community. Maybe in a couple of years, we have more devs from the US and other countries helping developing further the compatibility of the tuya devices, and maybe even to allow firmware updates for the supported devices.
I just spoke with the team from Tuya at the CSA event. Initially, they weren’t aware of the issue, but after checking internally, they confirmed the same response that LG received by email. Tuya has shut down the “Developer Authorization Code Mode - Tuya Public App Authorization” for all developers using the Tuya API, citing “business security risks.”
They suggested we migrate to their new Smart Home Tuya-API Cube, but the pricing they’re asking is simply unfeasible for us. Moreover, they’ve signed a contract stating they’re responsible for maintaining the API and ensuring issues like this don’t occur. Asking us to pay for this change contradicts the agreement.
From what I understand, the Tuya-API Cube functions as a self-hosted Tuya Cloud, which offers Tuya two key benefits:
Avoiding the costs of running the cloud infrastructure
Addressing concerns around user data being hosted in China
So they are trying to have their cake, and eat it too.
However, for us, this setup would require 1) covering our own cloud hosting expenses in addition to paying Tuya for access, and 2) building a custom Tuya-like app for device setup and management, meaning it wouldn’t be compatible with the existing Smart Life or Tuya Smart Apps.
It seems there may be a misunderstanding on Tuya’s part. Our goal isn’t to host a separate Tuya Cloud but simply to enable users to connect their devices within the Tuya Cloud to Homey.
Running this locally on a single Homey Pro would be nearly impossible—it’s just not feasible to replicate an entire AWS datacenter on one device. For this to work, it would need to operate within the Homey Cloud environment.
And to clarify, we’re not just building another Tuya Smartlife App just to connect devices with Homey
Added value of Homey is not for sure in support of Tuya (Cloud) - if this is what you are waiting for, I would rather move on. Practically almost every device, you can think of, has some Homey supported alternative (or you can stick to Tuya and still run it locally, eg. via Zigbee or even some other modern way). Naturally there are some exceptions I can’t think of right now.
How about people that already have dozens of Tuya devices in their home and looking at Homey to bring them together and automate them. I can imagine that most of those people are not looking to spend a fair amount of money to replace those devices just to be able to make Homey useful for them.
Maybe Tuya is willing to deliver API’s that you just can read and use
Rebuildling (copy) a platform is ofc not suitable.
But importing Tuya cloud data inside Homey cloud data and read this with a local api, a bit like Homewizard, that sounds not to bad.