What values do I need to use for Frank Energie Dynamic Energy prices

[Niels_van_Brakel]

Hi All, Really nice to see the Dynamic Energy prices are now available. But I would love some help in setting it up with Frank Energie. I can not find what numbers I should be looking for and where to find them in the app or invoice. Hopefully someone can help me

[Peter_Kawa]

Hi Niels,

This probably gets you going, but it’s for Zonneplan tariffs: but the tariffs doesn’t vary very much amongst competitors; you need to fine-tune the tariffs a bit:

Yes, dynamisch prijs in energy

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Or maybe this helps, it’s from the Power by the Hour app, the example for rhe energy tab:

[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year

For Frank Energie I have this. [image] BTW / VAT 0 fixed costs

otherwise
I think you’d contact Frank Energy about their fee on top of market prices.

[FKey]

@Peter_Kawa

I think you’d contact Frank Energy about their fee on top of market prices.

Best to contact Frank Energie.

It depends on when you have started your dynamic contract.

PS: their latest offer (1Sept) is “smart return”:

Delivering cost: +0,01815 /kWh

Return cost: +0,01815 /kWh (YES! Its positive now, so on top of the market price you receive this extra!)

[Vierlijner]

But I have a fixed price per month for delivery and administration cost and a dynamic part. And my electric consumption is every month different. So how calculate a extra cost per kW?

[FKey]

@Vierlijner

So how calculate a extra cost per kW?

In the NL thw extra (dynamic) coat per kWh is

Energy tax (set by government) + delivery cost (by Frank Energy) + dynamic market price

Which comes down to: €0.11085+€0.01815 =€0.12900 + dynamic market price

[Vierlijner]

Transport cost (Euro/year)

Fixed delivery cost (Euro/year)

Variable delivery cost contract price (Euro/kWh)

Energy tax (Euro/kWh)

Energy tax reduction (Euro/year)

Source

So there is a fixed part and a rated part. And this we can’t fill in the formula or combine. The year part is not related to how many energy (or water /gas) u use.

[FKey]

What do you wantg to see?

He energgy tab is all about used energy (so per kWh) so that does not relatte to fixed cost.

Power by the hour app might be a solution for you?

[Peter_Kawa]

Not possible.

Like FKey suggests, the PbtH app might suit you better (and is a lot more useful), to get a complete picture of the energy costs;
Your fixed yearly rates can be divided by 12 / 365 for example, and added to the additional monthly / daily costs:

The device above, called ‘summarizer’, gets the dynamic prices from this device, called ‘Day Ahead prices’

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