Homey Energy now supports Dynamic Electricity Prices. See the best times to use power — and create Flows to save on your energy bill automatically.
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What to enter for my Energy Contract
In short: (Dutch situation)
In most cases, you pay the market price for your energy consumption plus purchase costs and (energy) tax. This is the all-in price. You also pay fixed monthly supply costs per connection and grid management fees.
If you enter the sum of purchase costs and (energy) tax from your contract in €/kWh (excluding VAT) under Electricity Costs,
and the VAT rate for your country (%) under Taxes,
then it should be correct.
Electricity costs are calculated based on the following formula:
If your energy supplier publishes a surcharge for usage (i.e., €/kWh) including VAT, you can convert this to excluding VAT and enter it as Electricity costs, or choose the formula and enter it as follows:
In the next post under this topic, we will create a WIKI that anyone can update to enter the costs or formula for each energy contract for the Dutch zone. If needed, we can create a separate Wiki post for Belgium here or under the EN topic.
Notes:
Monthly fixed costs are not included in Homey Energy.
Homey cannot differentiate between costs for consumed or returned energy, variable feed-in costs, or other contract options.
Dynamic gas prices are not yet available in Homey.
As these contracts are country specific I suggest to maintain a list per country/region in the Country’s (native or most common used) language and forum category.
(If you are a native speaker for that country/language please create a Topic ans post the body of Athom’s Email announcement and create a reply to be converted to Wiki with the Table from below. then pls contact a moderator for help or to update this post.)
In Norway, each electricity provider has its own transmission tariffs, with different rates for daytime and nighttime, as well as separate rates for winter and autumn compared to spring and summer.
wow, here in the Netherlands I think more than 90% consumers still have one flat tariff for 1, 2 or 3 years. every day or hour the same ~ 0,24 € /kWh.
Dynamic (Hourly) tariffs are just introduced a couple of years ago but as simple as possible.
one handling tariff
one transmission tariff
one Energy-TAX (for all Energyproviders in The Netherlands),
above that only the generic VAT/TAX of 21 %)
Edit: that was not complete for NL, we can sum-up the consumed and returned energy (100kWh consumed and 90 kWh solar returned so I pay only for ~ 10 kWh (not paying Tax or Transport over the first 90 that I consumed neither over the 90 that I returned.)) this subsidy ends after 2026. Only some providers already have different transport cost for consumed vs returned energy. (Also not yet possible in Homey.)
I copied your reply to the Development team and am thinking about how Athom could implement that.
My conclusion for now: current Athom implementation isn’t workable for many or all Norwegian Homey’s.
Is there a way you use tariffs now with PbtH or other specific Homey Apps?
I use Piggy Bank and Norwegian Electricity Bill to get some overview, however I have no idea how much $ do I save using Homey.
I forgot to add that we also have a capacity fee dependent on 3 most active hours in a month.
All of that explained by my locak electricity provider here.
@Dijker are there any plans to expand the list of supported countries? In my case I would like Austria to be added as it listed on the EPEX and available via the common ENTSO-E and Nordpool APIs.
EDIT: sorry mistook you for a Athom employee because of your Avatar. Guess thats not for you to say… Maybe @Doekse has some input on this?
I hope that Athom would make a working implementation for the Norwegian users as well.
Pbth has not worked for some (or all) Norwegian users since May.
Today, I use Tibber and make some calculations to adjust for the changing rates.
Emile responded yesterday to a dynamic prices question @ Slack , about ideas to a way to get more flexibility with the various pricing systems around the globe:
From the list of countries that are supported it’s obvious that information is taken from Nord Pool. It only makes you wonder why not support all the Nord Pool regions. Austria is in that list, just as my country Estonia. 2 months ago I got the most corporate response possible unfortunately. “Information has been forwarded to the correct department, but no guarantees.”
That’s what I’m using right now. I don’t use the Homeys Energy feature at all because of the missing dynamic prices for my region. But do you mean that I could use Power by the Hour app and flows to feed the dynamic prices? I think it was suggestion long time ago and this is not implemented either. You can’t feed the Energy dynamic prices AFAIK. Or was it your suggestion that this feature should be implemented?
@Emile Would be nice if the prices could be read by a variable in the form of JSON. That would open up a lot of opportunities for different markets to make quick adjustments on their own.
In Denmark, many electricity customers don’t only have dynamic spot prices, but also fixed grid tariffs that depend on the time of day.
These tariffs have a significant impact on the actual electricity cost, regardless of how low the spot price is.
With my electricity provider, the tariffs are structured as follows:
00:00 – 06:00: Low tariff
06:00 – 17:00: Normal tariff
17:00 – 21:00: High tariff
21:00 – 00:00: Normal tariff
This means, for example, that electricity usage between 17:00–21:00 is always considerably more expensive due to grid tariffs, even if the spot price is low.
Feature request:
It would be extremely useful if Homey’s Dynamic Electricity Prices could support time-based tariffs, so they can be included in price calculations, flows, and automations.
Possible benefits:
Avoid running high-consumption devices during “high tariff” periods
More accurate representation of the real electricity price
Better optimization of heat pumps, EV charging, appliances, etc.
This setup is very common in Denmark (and also exists in other countries), so I hope this can be considered for the roadmap