Tado and switchbot

Can I use home to use tado and switchbot radiators thermostats together?

For example if the thermostats sensor of tado is changed in temperature that the switchbot radiators follow?

Or if the switchbot contact sensors discovers you leave the house to put al tado sensors and radiator thermostats ,and switchbot radiators thermostats off?

I wanted to try in the free cloud version before buying the bridge. But can’t seem to connect to tado app.

Kan ik thuis tado en Switchbot-radiatorthermostaten samen gebruiken?

Als bijvoorbeeld de temperatuur van de thermostaatsensor van tado wordt gewijzigd, volgen de Switchbot-radiatoren dan?

Of als de Switchbot-contactsensoren detecteren dat u het huis verlaat, worden dan alle tado-sensoren en radiatorthermostaten en Switchbot-radiatorthermostaten uitgeschakeld?

Ik wilde de gratis cloudversie uitproberen voordat ik de bridge kocht. Maar ik krijg geen verbinding met de tado-app.

Vertaald met DeepL.com (gratis versie)

I’m not sure what you mean by thermostats sensor, but if you mean the temperature setpoint, then yes. When the setpoint is changed on the tado, a Flow can be triggered to set the SwitchBot radiator to the same setpoint temperature.

If you are the only one living in the house then, yes, you can use the someone exited Flow trigger to change the setpoints to a very low temperature. If there are others living in the house, then it could be a bit more difficult as the SwitchBot contact sensor might not be reliable enough to determine if the house is empty.

What issues did you have?

I have just tried it and I can connect to my tado account using the Homey cloud version and add my thermostats and radiator valves.

Worst case here I suppose I can also trigger it on a google home hub? Or not if I’m with multiple people? Because google hub can detect the phones present in a house? Is how info it know with an automation rule in google home.

You could use Homey’s presence detection. Each resident will need an account on your Homey and have the mobile app setup. You will also need to setup the location of your Homey in the app settings. Homey then uses their phone to detect when they are at home.

Then you can use the Flow triggers cards for “The last person left” and “First person arrived” to set the required temperatures.

It won’t be ideal as the house will still be cold when you get home, so it depends how quickly it can warm up. The tado geofencing works much better as it learns how quickly you house warms up given the outside temperature and then starts the heating as you get close to home. But I believe that is now a subscription, whereas I got my tado many years ago when that was free. But if you have that, then just use the tado temperature setpoint changed card to synchronise the other thermostats / valves.

House warms up fairly quick so that won’t be a problem have the same now with google where it only starts warming after coming home. Sadly I am new to tado so I have to pay for all the nice features. And this is not something I’m willing to do for the moment. Because before you know it you are paying for every smart device. That is why I was also looking at homey.

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I’m using TadoX radiator thermostats, TadoX room sensors, SwitchBot radiator thermostats and the SwitchBot climate panel. You can use it this way:

  1. TadoX radiator thermostat and TadoX room sensor in one room (in the Tado app)
  2. Homey Advanced Flow for change on TadoX room sensor (temperature control) and set the SwitchBot radiator thermostat

You can not use a trigger from SwitchBot devices for changes of temperature. But following changes on Tado works fine. And you can use the Homey geofence to control temperature if you leave the house/apartment.

Other easy way to handle this: use the Homey heating planer and put every radiator thermostat in one heating plan based on your rooms. You can configure a “temperature if I’m not at home” and switch to this mode for all plans if you leave the house.

Do know if tado x works with the Homey tado app on the Homey cloud?

My current setup I have 4 rooms with a tado radiator thermostats because they can communicate straight to the tado thermostat to kick the boiler in gear. Since in these rooms I have only one radiator that setup is ok and works well.

I have a temperature sensor in a fifth room which can basically do the same. Problem if I want to control rooms separate is that I have 3 radiators in that room with traditional head. I have 3 switchbot radiator thermostats in the closet. And thus I would like to make it work that if i put the thermostat sensor of tado on a certain temperature, all three switchbot follow. Whether it is up, down or off. Reading your explanation this would be possible to do? I can also just buy 3 tado radiator thermostats but for the same price I can also buy almost the homey pro. Which would make more sense for the future. So I rather spent the money their if it can help me to make tado and switchbot work together.

Here’s one simple example:

As you can see: both TadoX devices have flow cards for destination temperature and thermostat mode. You can set Switchbot thermostat to the same temperature, if the TadoX radiator valve changes. Same for thermostat modes.

Maybe this will help.

I connected the TadoX devices with TadoX app to iOS matter integration. Than I connected it with multi master pairing to Homey using the Tado app on Homey. So all devices are using Matter: TadoX with Matter-over-thread and Switchbot with Matter-over-Bridge.

hi dferch I think this indeed would be a solution I’m looking for. On top the community help I’m receiving here is also great and worthwhile to take into consideration

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Hi Dferch I was able to save the flow. yet doesn’t seem to be working when changing the temperature in the app.

As you can see I changed the thermostat to 17 but switchbot 3 stays on 17

Have you checked to make sure the tile is showing the target temperature and not the measured temperature?

I think I found the problem. As being new i did not see that those labels are linked to devices and I connected them to the wrong devices. I was also able to create it as a simple flow allowing me to try from the phone untill it worked :wink:

Now it seems to work nicely

Hi Adrian, question i now have the flows working and the temperature follows but I see on the switchbot app that the current temperature for example is 20 degrees the radiator head confirms this yet in homey I see a temperature for example of 19 degrees this is for all 3 of them. All with different deviations. Is their a way to solve this? I have been searching around but haven’t seen anyone with a bit of the same problem. I did see you respond to a lot of the switchbot problems :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

How have you connected the SwitchBot devices, e.g. BLE, cloud or Mater?

I downloaded the switchbot app. I have the mini hub of switchbot to go to matter. So I would expect when I added them to homey it would have been smart enough to recognize the switch and the radiator heads? I added the devices by going through the official app on homey so not sure. Also not sure how you can see This?

Do you mean the SwitchBot mobile app or the Homey SwitchBot app?

If you added them via Mater you don’t need the Homey SwitchBot app.

If you added them using the Homey SwitchBot app then it would have been via the cloud (I forgot I haven’t made a BLE driver for the radiator valves)

Via de switchbot homey app indeed.

So what is better? Remove device uninstall the homey switchbot app and try to add them by matter?

how do you do this? Just add “matter device” and then scan the switchbot mini hub? Because the radiator valves don’t have matter. I think they connect via Bluetooth to the minihub ?

I’m not sure about Mater as I have not had any luck adding devices that way. But in theory it is a local connection, so should be better.

You could just try adding via matter before removing them and uninstalling the app.

Correct AFAIK.

One thing to check is if the webhook is working. Open the app setting page and select the Log tab, then set the drop list option to Webhook Information and monitor the information to see if you are getting notifications from the thermostats.