A light in my house “Light 2” has recently started switching itself on when another light “Light 1” is switched on. There isn’t a flow triggering it, so I’m wondering if there is some kind direct paring or grouping that has happened.
It’d appreciate it if somebody could help we work out why, and how to get it stop happening.
These are the settings for is “Light 2”, which is coming on when it shouldn’t:
**Light 2**
Property Value
ID 44d79d75-3641-406f-9a0b-6bbfd2afc085
Class light
Driver homey:app:com.fibaro — FGD-212
Ready Yes
Available Yes
Warning No
Custom icon Yes
Settings
Key Value
minimum_brightness 1
maximum_brightness 70
dimming_step_auto 1
time_dimming_step_auto 1
dimming_step_manual 3
time_dimming_step_manual 3
save_state true
timer_functionality 0
force_auto_calibration "1"
forced_brightness_level 30
switch_type "2"
double_click true
force_no_dim false
soft_start "1"
3_way_switch false
switch_s1_and_s2 false
scene_activation true
watt_report 10
watt_interval 3600
kwh_report 0.1
self_measurement false
zw_node_id "41"
zw_manufacturer_id "271"
zw_product_type_id "258"
zw_product_id "4096"
zw_secure "✓"
zw_battery "⨯"
zw_device_class_basic "BASIC_TYPE_ROUTING_SLAVE"
zw_device_class_generic "GENERIC_TYPE_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL"
zw_device_class_specific "SPECIFIC_TYPE_POWER_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL"
zw_firmware_id "274"
zw_wakeup_interval 0
zw_group_1 "1"
zw_group_2 ""
zw_group_3 ""
zw_group_4 ""
zw_group_5 ""
zw_configuration_value ""
Capabilities
Capability Type Value Edit value Last Updated
onoff boolean true
3 minutes ago
dim number 0.01
0
2 minutes ago
measure_power number 3.3 2 minutes ago
meter_power number 37.25 10 minutes ago
…and these are the settings for Light 1, which seems to be triggering light 2, when it’s turned on
You supply very little context information. Just settings don’t make clear in what situation it happens, nor what the circumstances are. So since the chances that someone else experiences exactly the same are very small, i think it isn’t very strange that no one has a suitable answer yet.
Only thing i can think of is that you have the wrong switch selected in your flow or that you selected something (i think it is called scene activation or something like that) when you added the FGD-212 switch.
@PetervdK What other context information would be helpful. It happens every time, no special context. One light on makes another light come on - why would that be when they are not in any flow. Scene activation is off for both devices
You say it’s not a flow triggering it, but afaik one light can’t switch on another light without a command. Also, the first light doesn’t switch on spontaneously, does it?
So what does? Manual? Button? Google Home? Lux sensor? Motion sensor?
Do you use zones or groups? Heimdal? All relevant information imho.
But i suppose guessing in the end might offer a solution.
You say it’s not a flow triggering it, but afaik one light can’t switch on another light without a command.
That’s the point. There is no flow, for either. That’s why I’m asking here. I think it might be direct z-wave thing that has become corrupted or something or a bug from an update, as it wasn’t set-up that way and for over a year the behavior wasn’t happening.
You say it’s not a flow triggering it, but afaik one light can’t switch on another light without a command. Also, the first light doesn’t switch on spontaneously, does it?
So what does? Manual? Button?
Button on Light 1 switches on Light 1 and then after about 3/4 of a second Light 2 comes on.
So if you press the button on switch named “Light 1”, being a Fibaro RGBW controller, it switches on a wired lamp. Then it also triggers a switch called “Light 2”, which is a Fibaro dimmer with a wired lamp behind it. Right so far?
And you say that there is absolutely no flow on Homey that triggers either one of the switches, right?
Then it looks like a dedicated zw_group association between the 2 switches. It seems switch 1 is associated with group 1, but according to the settings all group values for Light 2 are empty.
So it must be something with the “scene” setting or the group values are not displaying correctly or there are flows in place or there is some wire crossover between the switches. Or maybe it is a “hotel” switch situation (1 light on 2 switches)?
I have no experience with direct association or scene modes with Fibaro, so maybe someone else has any ideas left?
So if you press the button on switch named “Light 1”, being a Fibaro RGBW controller, it switches on a wired lamp. Then it also triggers a switch called “Light 2”, which is a Fibaro dimmer with a wired lamp behind it. Right so far?
Right
And you say that there is absolutely no flow on Homey that triggers either one of the switches, right?
Correct. The only flow in which both appear is to turn off all ground floor lights at 1am .
Then it looks like a dedicated zw_group association between the 2 switches. It seems switch 1 is associated with group 1, but according to the settings all group values for Light 2 are empty.
Correct
So it must be something with the “scene” setting or the group values are not displaying correctly or there are flows in place or there is some wire crossover between the switches. Or maybe it is a “hotel” switch situation (1 light on 2 switches)?
Light 2 is physically operated / connected to 3 switches (only one fibaro dimmer), but not the same as Light 1. Light 1 has only one switch.
I have no experience with direct association or scene modes with Fibaro, so maybe someone else has any ideas left?
But did you already try @JPe4619’s proposal?
And maybe take a close look at the settings of both switches via the /device/advanced settings menu in the app, particularly to the values of the scene- and zw_groups…
Sadly this problem returned. I’m now on a completely new Homey Pro, running Homey Version 7.2.1 and Fibaro app v 3.1.9
I’ve got a Fibaro Dimmer FGD-212 that is being switched on one when the manual switches connected to either of two Fibaro RGBW modules (FGRGBWM-441) is switched on, even though there is no direct association in the settings or Z-Wave controller rule/scene/flow.
I am using a new Homey Pro, and have completely reinstalled all the devices on the Z-Wave network recently, and reset the Fibaro modules.
How can I diagnose what is causing the phantom behaviour - i.e. Dimmer 2 being switched on by the RGBW switch inputs?
The Fibaro Dimmer is controlling some LED downlighters and is configured behind a 2 way and off / roller blind switch.
The 2 Fibaro RGBW modules are configured to dim 24V LED strip lights connected to each channel/
The settings for the devices are as follows:
FGD-212 Settings
**Button behaviour**
Scene activation: Disabled
Double click: Enabled
3-way switch function: Disabled
Switch input 1 and input 2: Disabled
Switch type: Roller blind Switch (UP | DOWN)
Timer functionality: 0
**Dimming**
Minimum brightness level: 1
Maximum brightness level: 99
Forced brightness: 60
Dim step size with automatic control: 1
Time of a dimming step at automatic control: 1
The percentage of a dimming step at manual control: 1
Time of a dimming step at manual control: 5
Dim function off: Disabled
**Power**
Restore state after power failure: Enabled
Wattage report threshold: 10
Wattage report interval: 3600
kWh report threshold: 0.1
Include own usage : Disabled
<b>Other</b>
Force auto-calibration : Readout
Soft-start functionality: Short soft-start (0.1s) (default)
**Associations**
Group 1: 1
Group 2: Blank
Group 3 : Blank
Group 4 : Blank
Group 5 : Blank
**Raw Configuration Parameters**
Value : Blank
**Z-Wave Device Information**
Secure⨯
Battery ⨯
Device ID: 2
Manufacturer ID: 271
Product Type ID: 258
Product ID: 4096
Firmware Version: 3
Firmware Sub Version: 5
Firmware ID: 274
Hardware Version: 2
Device Class (Basic): BASIC_TYPE_ROUTING_SLAVE
Device Class (Generic): GENERIC_TYPE_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
Device Class (Specific): SPECIFIC_TYPE_POWER_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
RGBW module Settings
**LED strip**
LED strip type: White LED
**Brightness**
Maximum brightness: 255
Minimum brightness: 2
**White LED**
Temperature with white LED: Enabled
White temperature (Kelvin): Warm white (2600K - 2800K)
Calibrate white LED: 0
Saturation to white LED: 10
**Color**
Used color pallet: Accurate colors
**Transitions**
Transition mode: Time based steps (mode 1)
Transistion step size (mode 1): 1
Transition step time (mode 1): 10
Time range (mode 2): Seconds
Transition time (mode 2): 3
**Inputs**
Input threshold: 0.5
Input 1 configuration: Momentary switch
Input 2 configuration: Momentary switch
Input 3 configuration: Momentary switch
Input 4 configuration: Momentary switch
**Power**
Wattage report interval: 30
kWh threshold: 0.1
Save power-off state: Enabled
**Associations**
Group 1, 1
Group 2
Group 3
Group 4
Group 5
**Raw Configuration Parameters**
Value: Blank
**Z-Wave Device Information**
Secure ⨯
Battery ⨯
Device ID: 8
Manufacturer ID: 271
Product Type ID: 2304
Product ID: 4096
Firmware Version: 26
Firmware Sub Version: 25
Device Class (Basic): BASIC_TYPE_ROUTING_SLAVE
Device Class (Generic): GENERIC_TYPE_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
Device Class (Specific): SPECIFIC_TYPE_POWER_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
As can bee seen, no scenes and no additional z-wave groups
