[Self Hosted] Matter devices how do we?

Hi,

I installed SHS Homey and well it works super good very happy with it.

Now I paid some Matter devices to IKEA to give it a try (I am a mostly zigbee user).

I can’t connect them to Homey because well I don’t have a homey pro.

The question I have now is how should I deal with it? Can I pay a Homey Pro and use it as a “relay” just for matter?

Is there a cheaper variant I could use? (I use zigbee2mqtt and it is super well integrated with homey, is there something similar for matter eventually?)

Any help is appreciated thank you! (I have no matter “host”)

I would recommend staying with ZigBee since it’s far more stable. Or use a Matter/Thread bridge that is supported by Homey via a Homey app.

If you have a Google Nest (newer version) speaker or Google TV streamer, you can also add them to Google Home and then integrate them in Homey using Google automations and the Virtual Devices app .

Hi @smarthomesven thank you and yes I love zigbee however matter will take the dominance in the future I imagine.

Also I have already some matter devices so well let’s make them work hehe :smiley:

Currently I had to map them on homekit but well… if my phone is not at home seems they don’t work it’s really weird.

Will have a look at a matter/thread bridge then, is it something “physical?”

I have pain to find any bridge … for zigbee I use a zigbee POE adapter and it works like a charm, anything similar exists for matter eventually? :smiley:

Thank you

EDIT: I see there is DIRIGERA from IKEA which is a hub for those matter devices and a homey app for it: IKEA DIRIGERA Gateway | Homey

However.. they do not list the CO2 sensor yet

There are also some HomeKit apps for Homey, maybe you can integrate via those?

I don’t know of any Matter/Thread bridges that are supported. Aqara has their cheap (€20) M100 bridge with Open API (Cloud), but that isn’t supported in Homey yet.

It might be possible to integrate this, but then someone needs to build an app for it. You can request apps here:

I also see IKEA has a Matter bridge, but that likely only works with their own devices. The IKEA bridge should be supported in Homey:

However, this only supports lights and smart plugs.

Okay I ordered the bridge and some other IKEA matter devices and well I will try to contribute to the community app :smiley:

Would be a great pleasure to help Homey users in the future let see what I can achieve this weekend :+1:

I just checked and Sonoff also has a bridge

But this one doesn’t support Thread as far as I can see, only Matter which won’t work with IKEA.

MOES also has a Matter bridge with Thread support:

Might work with the IKEA devices, but not sure as Tuya is usually a closed ecosystem.

Get a HomePod Mini for your Thread border router. Connect your Matter over Thread devices to Apple Home. Open the setting page for the device you just added in Apple Home where you will find an option to put it into Pairing Mode. Then go back to Homey and add a Matter device using the code generated when you put the device into pairing mode.

Homey SHS + Matter? Not recommended.
And I don’t see Matter(Thread/Wifi) as ‘universal’ protocol, not yet. It still has a long way to go.
Z2M works flawless.

Almost 2y ago I bought one Matter device out of curiosity, a NUKI lock.
When connected, it works very well.

Matter + Homey SHS ? Good luck.
Some say it’s a network issue, but why does it work with H.A. on the same network?
I even saw the word connected during the pairing (taking ages), but right away it fails ( using the stuff I own ).

A bunch of Matter over Thread tests:

  • Home Assistant
  1. H.A. + OTBR :cross_mark:
  2. H.A. + Homey Pro 2026 TBR :cross_mark:
  3. H.A. + Nest Hub TBR :white_check_mark:
  • Homey Pro 2026
  1. Homey Pro 2026 + onboard TBR :white_check_mark:
  • Homey SHS
  1. Homey SHS (H.A. add-on) + Homey Pro 2026 TBR :cross_mark:
  2. Homey SHS (H.A. add-on) + OTBR :cross_mark:
  3. Homey SHS (H.A. add-on) + Nest Hub TBR :cross_mark: → Connected, but immediately followed by: Error Unknown 0x2000065
  4. Homey SHS (H.A. add-on) + 2nd Matter connection (next to H.A.) :cross_mark: Error Unknown 0x2000065
  • Google Home
  1. Google Home + Nest Hub TBR :white_check_mark:

(TBR = Thread Border Router)

Yes, for me Matter devices work pretty unstable as well:

Homey SHS + Hue bridge: Cannot find the device

Google Home + WiZ bulb: goes offline after a while and doesn’t come back

eWeLink CUBE + WiZ bulb: Works

eWeLink CUBE + Hue bridge: cannot find the device

3R-Installer app: works with all devices.

I just learned about the HA Matter Bridge Add-on last night. I know I’m late to that party, but my exploration of Matter has been intentionally slow. I was expecting issues and found them quite quickly. I’m not testing Thread enabled devices, just Matter over IP.

The HA Matter Bridge is working with Apple TV, but when the HA Matter Bridge is shared with Homey SHS, those devices become unresponsive after a short time. Rebooting SHS brings them back online, but only for a few minutes.

Neither of these work consistently. If I remove a device from the HA Matter Bridge and restart the bridge (this is required each time a device is added or removed), then it dutifully disappears from Apple Home. Unfortunately, when I add it back, it reappears in Apple home but cannot be renamed or moved to another room as it could the first time around.

Aside from not being usable with HA Matter Bridge, Homey SHS also will not re-add Matter devices after they are removed, and the Matter devices that have not been removed will be offline after the HA Matter Bridge is restarted, so it is necessary to restart Homey SHS each time the HA Matter Bridge is restarted. But then of course they go offline by themselves in a few minutes.

Configuration tested:

HA Matter Bridge > Apple TV (Apple Home) > Homey SHS :cross_mark:

HA Matter Bridge > Apple TV (Apple Home) :white_check_mark: and :cross_mark:

Matter is still a mess of inconsistencies. I choose to step away from Matter again until it’s further along. The last thing I want in my smart home is to introduce instability.

It seems like I am having a better experience with Matter than some. Maybe it’s because I’m not using a Homey setup with them :man_shrugging: . They’re connected to Apple Home and then paired with HA, and they’ve been as stable as any Zigbee device I own. The Matter (2 Thread) devices I’m currently using are Linkind bulbs, Govee LED strips, an Aqara FP300, 2 Gledopto LED controllers, and a Lafaer presence sensor. My Hue lights are also connected to Apple Home via Matter, but with HA I use the Hue integration. So, in my experience, Matter is working as expected.

It likely also depends on the network. In my network, all devices are on an isolated network and for specific devices that don’t need specific network features (like reaching other clients on the same network) is also disabled. So that might be the issue with the Matter setup. But I think ZigBee is still the most stable standard.

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Agree 100% with you about Zigbee and that is what I normally buy.

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In regard to Apple Home, I don’t feel this is network related. The problems with Apple Home are likely due to bugs in their software. I say this because it works, but then acts in strange ways that have nothing to do with communication to other devices.

I also tried the Matter Bridge app on Homey that Emile wrote and it in fact works very well, but I don’t have devices to move from Homey to other systems. It is the opposite direction that is important to me.

I don’t use Apple devices, so I don’t know how it works there. But Matter requires quite a lot of network features to be enabled, and in my network I have many of those disabled for IoT devices (the cloud-only devices like Tuya are client isolated as well for extra security on top of the regular IoT network security). So I think the network settings of the devices can also be related to the issues.

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I bought an Aqara M100 hub as an Matter/Thread Border Router running SHS and 2 Bridges. It works as expected. Very cheap effective solution i think.