It’s a bit inconsistent strategy While “advanced flow” functions are web only, but at the same time dashboards are mobile only. No place in Homey rules it all, you always have to be split between UI apps. I guess the 20% of users are folks who need the “advanced flow” or bigger “Insights” graphs constantly.
Being a developer myself, I see a lot possibilities for re-usage of components alike the UIX from Insights into Dashboards, and vice-versa. In ideal case they should have the same look-n-feel, as a function. A good showcase is: a User can stack up several graphs at Insights in one graph, while I can’t do this at Dashboards, while the UIX of the graph looks the same. When you account for a HomeScreen - it comes even more obvious, that UIX between all three parts of the systems is the same: Dashboards, Homescreen, and Insights. This would “kill all the birds with one stone”, if one UIX-component would rule them all.
It’s what comes first here, a chicken or an egg. I’m guessing that when dashboards become available on the web, more users will adopt them. I enjoy a bigger screen when doing major configurations on my Homey Pro. I wish I could do most of it through the Web, while the final touches and daily usage itself is through a Tablet or Mobile device.
The dream scenario would be to have unique links for specific Dashboards and the possibility to save graphs from Insights - so they are easily accessible from any type of device through a web browser, computer, tablet, or mobile. This will give a new boost to Homey’s popularity and provoke the creation of new apps/dashboards/metrics/control panels.
Hm, how can I access it? Isn’t the whole discussion here about Dashboard components are not being made for Web, and you can’t access it yet through the Web interface technically …
at least this is what @Emile said:
Web app … Unfortunately the codebase is not very compatible, even though we use React Native & React.
ah, yes, that I know, thank you!
Yet we stepped out slightly from the original discussion line: the thread has a tag on Dashboards primarily, and this trick doesn’t work, unfortunately. We, as a Homey Users, have to bounce between Native App and Web, as the functions/possibilities differ.
Dashboards work only on Mobile (Native app), while Insights and Advanced flows are accessible from Web interface only. Ideally, we need a place that rules them all.
When I following the progress of this “mobile-phone” dashboard I see more and more tablet user posting there results.
To see it for myself I get 4 x 3 switches in one row on my tablet.
I want web-based dashboards. Being on a browser would allow for more complex dashboard options and configurations as well. Because I want to build epic dashboards. I want status widgets to flash red when there’s an error condition. I want the whole dashboard to reconfigure itself under certain conditions.
For example, when my Nest Smoke Alarm go off, I want the dashboard to immediately show me all the smoke alarms so I can see the room with the emergency condition. Taking out my phone, unlocking it, loading up the app, waiting for it to refresh, clicking Nest Protect, takes forever when alarms are blaring. I’d rather glance at a home status dashboard on the wall real quick. That’s what I want to build with Homey.
The things you want don’t mix well with how Homey’s dashboards are structured, where each widget is basically a standalone webview showing some HTML. Running it in a browser doesn’t make that any different.
If Homey dashboards could be managed via the web app, then it would allow for more complex dashboard building and management. Like how Advanced Flows can only be managed via the web app because they’re too complex to try to force into a mobile app. Similarly, if Advanced Dashboards could be managed via the web app, then it would allow the developers to integrate more complex features.
Keeping dashboard management relegated to the mobile app pigeonholes the development team on what features are even possible to implement because anything complex is not practically feasible to implement on a mobile platform. It creates an artificial ceiling on what features are possible, similar to Flows vs Advanced Flows.
The features you want would basically require a complete rewrite of how dashboards are implemented (even more so than advanced flows, which are still “the same” flows under the hood).
And since dashboards are a recent add-on, I doubt that this will happen anytime soon. Athom has indeed created an artificial ceiling, but we have to assume they did so intentionally ().
Just adding my voice to the intense disappointment when I found out that dashboard configuration is not available in the webapp. I completely expected that it would be there and was shocked when it wasn’t. Setting up a dashboard on a small screen of a phone is completely insane.
Why why why. Whats wrong with todays developer when they dont meet the need of the market. i was so happy in seeing that one could do mood in homey that could perhaps fix the missing grouping and controlling of several devices, all my work is being don on my mac laptop, where i cant get the ipad app to function, so unfurtunately i cannoth do moods, i know it is doable on the phone . But " come on " meet people where they work. The same goes for Dashboard , whoom in there wildest fantasy would sit on the phone and layout a dashboard, again Come into the game and do it right.
Sorry for the complain have spend all weekend on my homey with all the lacking function. am i the only one being anoid over spending a furtune hoping to get a “Home assistent” replacement i gues not
Also gonna voice my opinion about web-based dashboards. It’s unfortunate that you’re not interested in this, I can see there’s a large demand for it and I’m hopeful you will come around and change your mind about this!
While “advanced flow” functions are web only, but at the same time dashboards are mobile only. No place in Homey rules it all, you always have to be split between UI apps. I guess the 20% of users are folks who need the “advanced flow” or bigger “Insights” graphs constantly.
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