As much as I would love Honey to succeed, with a (regular) price of 299 euro, this thing is dead in the water. Letâs not forget, your smartphone is the perfect portal without incremental costs
Cheap Android TV boxes (T95 for example) also use these chips. But they earn their money back with factory-installed malware.
Saw the video and was like âperfect, one or two per room?â
Saw the price, âforgot the whole video contentâ
Half the price and add homey bridge functionality to it and it gets interestingâŚ
@Doekse can you explain the pricings? Looks like I am not the only one who finds it too expensive..
I love your ecosystem and design philosophy, even made apps for it, but youâve miss the mark on this one for me (again FOR ME, I donât make it an absolute truth, but mine).
Such a remote with a fixed location design should be less expansive OR it should be flexible with Qi charge/magnetic bases and battery to start.
Overall the âon the kitchen counterâ case it the perfect âshould be movableâ example, I donât want a 250⏠touch screen device near oil, fire, smokes etc⌠(and honestly I want âtouchlessâ in my kitchen).
Rotary is nice, but itâs overkill and over designed when you have a touch screen (if itâs reactive). I love it as a designer, I donât as a paying customer.
At that price it should be almost a home hub but itâs too small for that, so Iâll keep my cheep android tablet to do it (until a certain fruit company propose somethingâŚ)
You can really see and feel LGâs pressure on them to create revenue. Forget about investing in silly stuff like making existing products better or even work properly! Create new sources of money instead.
estimated BOM
| # | Item | @5k | @25k |
|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Rockchip RK3566 (BGA-565) | 9.00 | 8.00 |
| 2 | LPDDR4X 8 Gb (1 GB) | 14.00 | 13.00 |
| 3 | eMMC 8 GB | 9.50 | 8.50 |
| 4 | PMIC (RK809/817 class) | 2.50 | 2.00 |
| 5 | 2.8" round IPS + cap touch | 16.00 | 11.00 |
| 6 | Cover glass, round, laminated | 7.00 | 5.00 |
| 7 | Stainless ring, turned + bearing | 11.00 | 7.50 |
| 8 | Ring magnet + encoder IC | 1.80 | 1.30 |
| 9 | Wi-Fi + BLE module | 3.50 | 2.80 |
| 10 | Speaker + amp | 2.50 | 1.80 |
| 11 | Proximity + ALS | 0.90 | 0.60 |
| 12 | Temperature sensor | 1.20 | 0.80 |
| 13 | USB-C + ESD | 0.90 | 0.60 |
| 14 | PCB 6â8L HDI, ~70 mm | 6.00 | 4.50 |
| 15 | Passives, crystals, FPC, shields | 5.00 | 3.50 |
| 16 | Housing PC/ABS | 3.00 | 2.00 |
| 17 | Light guide, gaskets | 1.50 | 1.00 |
| 18 | Thermal interface | 0.40 | 0.30 |
| 19 | Desk stand | 5.00 | 3.50 |
| 20 | Wall mount | 2.00 | 1.40 |
| 21 | USB-C cable | 3.50 | 2.50 |
| 22 | Packaging | 3.50 | 2.50 |
| 23 | SMT, AOI, ICT, assembly | 8.00 | 5.50 |
| 24 | Lamination, calibration, yield | 5.00 | 3.50 |
| Total FOB (USD) | 122.70 | 93.10 |
add research & dev time please (+marketing etcâŚ)
And certification? CE? FCC? Software dev salary? Global distribution? Payments? Cloud bandwidth? Support? Updates?
All missing from your BOM 
Iâm not saying the price is not legit, Iâve saying it miss the point at that price. (or the point shouldnât be at that price).
Maybe if it was a tablet sized screen I maybe buyed it. But for its size and features its too expensive
Of course my BOM isnt perfect 
i cant see their internals. But a price of 299 is still crazy for this thing i am not saying, that the product is bad. but Athoms pricing in general is.
With all due respect to your arguments and cost breakdowns, âŹ250 for a better remote control is ridiculous. Anyone who wants something like that can run Home Assistant on a Shelly Wall Display and get a similar device for 30 per cent of the price.
I canât imagine this device will be a success. When I saw the price, I even stopped watching the presentation because Iâd lost interest in the rest of it.
How are you going to interface with Homey Cloud and Homey Pro natively then?
The Homey Portal interface looks fantastic, but the device itself is far too expensiveâespecially if it is intended to be placed in every room.
It would be brilliant if the same interface were also available as a full-screen mode for phones and tablets. Most importantly, it would be perfect for the Apple Watch, with the Digital Crown working just like the Portalâs rotary ring.
Iâve ordered one because It looks like a nice device and I like to support Athom and help growing the platform, addons and the community.
But as a lot others I have to admit it is really expensive. I cannot imagine one is using and buying this as intended. 3 rooms will set you back âŹ900 considering the average user canât afford to buy them all at once.
âŹ150 max âŹ200 should be the price.
Not at all. I connect the Homey devices to Home Assistant and create dashboards there, which I display on the wall-mounted screen. Thatâs perfectly sufficient for me and also controls all the relevant devices, such as lights and thermostats.
@Doekse could you use it to send text-to-speech to via flows to let it talk?
How? How can you interface with Homey Cloud? A reverse engineered API?
@smarthomesven Are you an Athom employee trying to sell the product?
