Aqara FP300 with Matter!

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I would expect it to turn on when I go to bed and off when I get out of bed.

That is not possible. It is a presence sensor.

@Asterix
Did you program it with zigbee or matter?
Position it so that it covers the area next to the bed where you get out.
The FP300 cannot distinguish whether you are lying down or standing up.

I use it with Zigbee. I placed the sensor directly above my bed, but during the night, while I’m sleeping, the presence sensor deactivates and reactivates at least 5-6 times. If I had associated a flow with the sensor, the light would turn on 5-6 times during my sleep.

@Jan_Albert
That is not possible. It is a presence sensor.

If I understand correctly, because it’s a presence sensor, it should remain active as long as I’m lying in bed (even if I’m still while asleep). After a few seconds of getting out of bed and leaving the room, the presence sensor should deactivate. Am I doing something wrong?

No, a presence sensor stays active as long as it detects a certain amount of water (like a human).
Be careful where you point it at, walls and glass do not block the sensor (as opposite to Infrared motion sensors), it’s very well possible it detects something behind glass or wall. A ceiling might not block it as well, it involves a lot of fine tuning and repositioning.

But I think you should tune the sensitivity threshold, detection range and motion hold (if possible with your sensor)

Motion hold for example, reduces these short “undetected” events.

With my sensors all of this is still not 100%“watertight” for longer presence periods (several hours), I always use the same flow as I use with my motion sensors:

Yes.

mmWave technology (Radar): Detects waves that reflect on people. Even the micromovement of a chest when breathing is detected, so that the system knows that someone is still there, even if they are still sitting still.

Joke?

@Jan_Albert He probably meant in the bathroom while showering

Body water content plays a large role on why these sensors can detect humans so well.

@Asterix , is your screenshot from Homey or the Aqara app. Asking as I have an FP300 connected to Homey but don’t see the setting for distance.

Does the Aqara app on the Homey add any value? I have tried installing the FP 300 with and without but I did not notice any difference (and I am trying to keep my Homey as clean as possible)

I might be really late on this. But connecting to Homey directly via the homey aqara app via zigbee. Do you get the option to make flows based on the different distance’s?

Like 4m and 2m?

Or do you need the aqara phone app and hub too do that?

At least the default zigbee vs Matter cards are shown in the homey.app store

This is exactly what I am going to try, just got my sensor today.

Could you share how your flow is build up?

I am not currently using a Homey device but if I were I would use the “The Motion Alarm Turned On” and “The Presence Alarm Turned On” cards to turn my lights on and the “The Presence Alarm Turned Off” to turn them off. I use the motion/presence timeouts built into the device instead of timers in my Flows. I try not to overly complicate things. Hope this helps.

I never said anything about using distance in Flows so you may have meant to reply to someone else.

Is this also possible with matter ? Or only zigbee ? Via aqara app ?

No, only zigbee

Hello,

Many of us are having issues with the app and the FP300 sensor (running the latest firmware) remaining locked in “motion/presence ON” states, long after someone has left a room.

This only happens when paired using the Homey app, but if bridged via an Aqara hub as a Matter device, doesn’t seem to exhibit this behavior.

The only “fix” I’ve found to get the sensors to stop sending timeouts is to “repair” the connection to wake the sensor out of the locked “ON” state.

Hopefully this helps, but please reach out if you need logs or any help in testing a fix. Thanks for working on this.

To whom are you directing this question/request?
Keep in min that this is a user forum.

If you want the developer of the Aqara app for Homey to be made aware of your request, make sure to post it in the dedicated forum topic for the Aqara app: [APP] Aqara & Xiaomi Smart Home - Simplify your life with a smarter home.

I would move them over to zigbee for now. You can do this in the phone app of Aqara. They tend to thrive better over there. At least they did for me. But I fully agree that they should work flawlessly in Homey at matter.

I’m using them over Zigbee, paired directly to Homey Pro (skipping Matter/Thread entirely). It seems the sensors get stuck in an “activated” state and then further get stuck in an unresponsive state.

One of the flows I use it for is to automatically turn on lights as people are present, and to return to an auto-off flow after a few seconds of inactive sensor data.

However, what typically happens is the light activates but fails to turn off, showing stuck/ghost motion and presence data.

I’m able to recover the state of the sensors by either moving in their field again, or using the restart trick, but this has only started happening after the last two updates.