I’m doing some research on implementing a smart (domotica) system for my new house, and homey seems to be the holy grail for me. But i do not really seem to get a grip on how to get a good basic lighting system. So i want to get clear if what i designed will work.
Who will use it?
My girlfriend is willing to implement some domotica, especially light bundling seems to be something she is looking forward to. But we want to be able to use our wall switches just like we do now. This is foremost for the guests, like sleepovers/parents/family that just come around often.
What do i want to automate?
I am looking at smart systems for some while now, and i would like to experiment a bit more getting the domotica integrated all over the place in the coming years (i bet i’m not the only one on this forum)
For now i got some points i want to embed in the system myself:
Switch my lights on/off with the corresponding (original) physical switch.
Dim my lights with a separate remote or phone, but forcing the physical switches at a set brightness level
(so you dont have to turn up the brightness in the morning).
OPTIONAL replacement momentary switch (lets call this separate one the ALL-ON SWITCH) on the wall.
Connect my sonos system with the living room switch (all-on switch), so that if the lights in the living room come on at initial entrance, my sonos starts playing.
Getting RGBW bulbs integrated would be a bonus (setting color scenes via voice/app would be fine, no physical switch needed)
So basically, i want to do a philips hue/ innr smart led system integrated with physical wall switches.
The benefits of Homey’s flows, as far as i understand from all the apps and devices that i found already, are nice to experiment with, but this will be my basic setup. In the end i guess if i get working around the flows with presence/logic flows i can automate most of the physical switch needs.
For instance, i guess i can get my sonos beam to notice it is streaming directly from television, thus making it dim the lights to a nice background lighting etc. not to mention presence and stuff.
What is the situation:
So here we got a quick drawing of the living room, bit out of proportions, but it does the trick.
L1 has 2 single switches, S1 and S1*
L2-3 have a double switch in S2-3
The kitchen spots don’t have a physical wall switch, they will be plugged in a wall box in series.
So whats the plan?
Well, finally my problem. I have seen multiple setups the past weeks on youtube, forums, webshops and overall googling, regarding Philips HUE / INNR / IKEA bulbs, smart plugs and fibaro dimmers/switches.
If i’m correct all these smart bulbs have one problem. they dont work with my system. They cant be switched on/off with the light switch, because that would exclude any kind of automation until the power is back on there, and they would return to 100% white if the power has been disconnected (not at the certain brightness i want to set myself)
And besides the problem with the continuous power, i would never be able to trigger other commands with my light switches, like the sonos connection i sketched before.
So i came across a couple of bits of a conversation, of people using fibaro dimmers in combination with philips hue lights. But it just does not make sense to me. Why use a smart bulb, if you have a smart switch? The HUE color bulbs i would understand, just for the sake of the RGB functionality, but if it is just for dimming, why would i use the HUE white lamps instead of a dumb dimmable philips led.
But in the end, for the sake of options, i want to do it good the first time, so i started my shopping list with full PHILIPS HUE lights.
My shopping list (so far):
L1: HUE Color and white
S1: Fibaro dimmer 2 (i would like to make this the ALL-ON switch, so with a double tap=all lights on function maybe)
S1*: this one would be connected with the (ALL-ON SWITCH as input 2 if i’m correct.)
L2: Philips Hue Color and white
L3: Philips Hue Color and white
S2-3: Fibaro double switch 2 (this wont use the dimming part, because that would be in the lamp itself, and i cant fit 2 dimmers in the box i guess.)
the Kitchen lights would be connected with a Fibaro double switch, or a Fibaro wall plug if i’m correct.
Does this do the trick?
Well, sorry for the long post. If you made it this far, thanks in advance. I hope someone can help me with the question if this will do for my basic setup. I think that with this physical connection, i will be able to toggle the lights even when homey is offline somehow. But i wonder if all functions (RGB/SONOS/ALL-ON switch would work if set up like this.