Location and Presence (Owntracks) - HowTo

No one can share his settings ? :blush:

Please explain what you did and tried and try to explain your issues more clear (you are allowed to use more than 1 sentence :crazy_face: )
If we conclude it is still not working while all should be set, we can go compare our settings.
But that’s no fun, right?

Did you follow the how-to I posted 2 posts above here? Which parts not clear to you?

What did you do with the hints Hannes85 provided?

Everything works fine in HTTP and i want to try MQTT now.
I see a Certificat part in MQTT explanations, with a .PEM file if i remember correctly but i don’t know where to put it on iOS Owntracks app.
And i don’t know where to put the “user id” generated in Location app.

But while i read some documentation on Owntrack website, i see a recommandation for HTTP mode on Android devices so maybe i should not use MQTT at all ?!

It worked fine for me too with http.

While I installed mqtt to play with Home Assistant, I just wanted to try this to get to work with mqtt too, and it works, by following the how-to mentioned earlier.
I did not use the certificate PEM option yet, while I don’t get that either🤪
So I can’t help you with that.
If you want the settings without the certificate option, I’m happy to share.

Well if the certificat is not necessary, it’s better !
I’m curious to see your configuration yes.

Your connection is lots safer (more private) using a cert.
My configs:
[Owntracks phone app]:

[MQTT Broker]

[Locatie & Aanwezigheid]

  • Note, enable port-forwarding in your router config. In the example inside & outside ports 1883 are used

  • Note, STOP and START MQTT Broker when done with configuration

Ok i’m trying to make it work.
I’m confuse, where should i put this users id ?

I don’t understand, in MQTT, where it identify users ?

What is the peters9 in your screenshot ?!

What is the password i put in OwnTracks app ?

The password is the password for the user (Jeremy) that you created in the broker app

Peter S9 is the same login as used in MQTT broker.
So use the same user+password with both Owntracks and MQTT broker
S9 is just my description of my phone, and PD are my initials
On Jessica’s phone, u use again the same mentioned user+password (this authenticates Owntracks with MQTT broker) and instead of S9 u can use ‘Phone-Jess’ or just something you can recognize her phone with.

Fence names are also defined in Owntracks, but called ‘Regions’:

So if i understand correctly, in MQTT, users are created in MQTT Broker but in HTTP users are created in Location app, correct ?
So i create users in MQTT for every users in my house ?
But i also need a user for the Location app ? Because it need to log in too ?

Thanks, i’m such a noob…

Edit : well it’s working… need to test it more but it seem to detect faster than HTTP.

Edit 2 : the sync of geofences is not working on my iPhone. And i can’t see my wife on the friends map as HTTP allows me to.

hi here is security settings iPhone i not find the OwnTracks connected but not show my device position… I installed mqtt broker homey. I did it…

Hi I installed the homey mqtt broker and location & persence and iPhone owntracks. I only 1 account add to mqtt broker that is I used location app configuration
And the owntracks settings dns and separate userid like wife name and childrens name but same password make broker settings. There is connection is connected. And see all devices location & presence app configuration page.

This is good?
The friends page owntracks not see other family member I don’t know why.
Here 3 pictures

and if I try install iOS device cerificate and after say this message:

Hi have any ide I want to flow set if I leave my home over the 20km the flow run and not starting afternoon heating. I don’t find any solution this triger. It is possible?

Yes, you can make a geofence over the road once you past that you can start a flow with Owntracks.

Create a region over the road with some overlap.

Then create a flow , If Felho enters Road20km_Region , and time is after 13:00 then start up heater or whatever you want to do

If I create one region near my home and I neked set circle radius 20km? Or how looks like this?

You can create a geofence around your house with a radius of 20km.
When you leave the fence → heating off
When you enter the fence → heating on

But first check if the fence works correctly :slight_smile:

And one more think, why not see my family member? I set mqtt broker everyone use same broker but not see others, owntrecks discreption say:

OwnTracks has a so-called Friends and Family capability which is enabled by default. The way this works is friends and/or family members who share a single MQTT broker can “see” eachother on the map, respectively on a list of friends held by the app. (This can be done either by configuring all apps to use the same broker or by what is called bridging .)

Let’s assume for a moment, that a user Jane (user name jjolie ) has an iPhone 4s (device name 4s ), and that she publishes location data to a topic at

Did you set the read/write permission correctly?
Friends should work with a MQTT broker.

ACL’s should be something like:
owntracks/# → read/write

I use homey MQTT Broker. Where are set this?

And normal fance work all devices correctly