I’ve had many issues with Thread in the past, but everything is stable and has been for a few months now. I have Myggspray, Myggbett, Kajplats and Timmerflotte installed right now.
Can you let me know the following info…
- How many powered Thread (Router) devices are in your setup?
- What Homey device do you have with a Thread radio? Pro 2023, 2026, mini etc?
- What kind of home network do you have? Unifi, Aruba, TPLink, GLiNet or another mesh?
- Do you have any VLANs on your home network?
- Do you have any firewall?
- Is IPv6 turned on, on your router?
- Do you have any Zigbee devices connected to Homey, which are exposed directly to Homey without going through another hub?
- Where is Homey located in your house? Is it sitting right next to your router?
- Does Homey connect to your home network over LAN or Wifi?
- You say “not on any other platform”. Are you sure there’s only one Thread network in your home?
Thank you so much for the help!
Okay so, point per point:
- 6 total: 3 lightbulbs, 2 powersockets, and one donut wall light, the one from ikea, all matter over thread.
- I am using a Raspberry Pi with a SHS of Homey, using the Dirigera as a thread border router.
- My home network is still ISP bound, it’s a local Portuguese ISP, MEO, one router in the living room and an extender access point in my bedroom.
- No VLANs at all
- Turned off both my regular and my IPV6 firewalls on my IPS’s router.
- Sure is, but weirdly it isn’t giving my raspberry pi an IPV6 IP/MAC
- None, since they’re all having to go through dirigera, since SHS doesn’t support the USB zigbee antena I have connected.
- Homey is located on my living room, right next to where one of the sensors is, in the entrance, next to the living room arch. Directly next to my router, and to dirigera, and both are connected via ethernet to the router.
- LAN
- That’s a great question! How do I figure that out? I’m a newbie to all this tbh
Thank you once again for the willingness to help, I am losing my mind, as ONLY battery powered sensors from IKEA aren’t working.
So you’ve disabled the firewall entirely (also from WAN)? That’s incredibly risky, I would recommend enabling it again immediately. With firewall fully disabled, anyone on the internet can access your network from anywhere.
Yeah dw, it’s back on haha.
Had it off for a hot minute to check if it impacted anything, but nah.
You shouldn’t put hubs with a Thread radio, right next to your ISP router.
Minimum of two metres away or you could end up with a lot of interference.
I’d look into IPv6 to be honest, it’s one of the main gripes for a Thread mesh.
Also give the below article a read and see if there are any easy wins for you
Are you using the same subnet for IOT and all of your other devices?
phones, laptops, tablets, TVs etc.
Also just to add, but what currently works for me
Rack in my loft with a patch bay and a couple of switches, one POE for cameras.
ISP Router (EE in the UK) is up there, but the wireless radios are turned off.
I have a GLiNET Flint 2 which stays in the loft and the 5GHz band is turned off.
This is on it’s own subnet and all my IOT devices go through this
I then have a small 10inch rack in a cupboard on the 1st floor, which has another gigabit switch.
Homey Pro (2023) and a Phillips Hue Bridge Pro are located in this rack. This means they’re on a separate floor to the Flint2 router, keeping a good distance of 3-4 metres.
All Thread or WIFI devices are connected to Homey or the Flint2 and then any Zigbee devices go through the Hue Bridge.
I then have a completely separate Aruba AP25 access point downstairs (on a different subnet) which my personal devices are connected to and the 2.4GHz band is turned off, so I reduce the interference where possible. This is on a different subnet to the Flint2 and anything IOT.
Zero issues with Thread using this setup and I have about 60 Matter devices, around 55 are Thread and 5 are Wifi. Probably around 15 Zigbee devices, mainly Hue products on top of that.
They also work flawlessly.
I own a period property in London with really thick brick walls on all floors, so my setup is maybe a bit overkill, but that’s what works when you don’t have cavity walls.
I plan on going full Thread in a few months, once Wago release their upcoming Thread relays. Wifi relays are a pain in the ass if you have to turn Homey off for an extended time for DIY or electrical work, they just don’t self heal like Thread or Zigbee.
It depends on which WiFi devices you have. I have many WiFi devices including Tuya, Tapo, Kasa, WiZ, etc. and all devices auto-reconnect to my network once the AP is powered up again.
I’ve had all of the above and all would disconnect after outages
Tuya especially.
I have the same issue’s. For me the thread bulbs are awsome and have zero issue’s.
The mygbet motion sensors and door sensors are also fine after updates.
For me it is the bilsera buttons that always go offline after 2 to 3 days. Restarting the button after a few minutes it should come online again.
I have a single thread network with eneugh bulbs everywhere. I have added the dirigera to the same thread network for updates of the firmwares. There they also go offline.
I have a homey pro 2023
This went allright for quite a while but since a few days problems are back with a vengeance. Not only sensors but bilresa switches stop working. Restart ikea app no go. Restart homey switches work. Within half an hour: back to square one. Completely unworkable.
Worked for a while but now again specifically all Ikea Matter products have crashed. Ikea restart: still no go. Complete Homey restart: still no go. My Aplstuga’s have flatlined from july 22.
@Hans_Heintz : Are all Your Matter devices on same Thread network?
Check on DevTools page to check the status.
I had unstable IKEA Matter devices before I re-attached all to ‘Homey Pro’ Thread network.
I did few changes at same time (including all available FW upgrades) so I’m not sure it helps but it doesn’t definitely harm.
Just my 5 cents…
Google AI on my disappointment about all of this: I can 100% imagine that, and you are definitely not alone in this. It is incredibly frustrating when you spend 400 euros on a Pro upgrade, only to discover that basic functions like your Matter and Thread devices completely collapse every two months. The Homey Pro 2019 was an incredibly stable workhorse in many ways. That after such a large investment you now have to dive into complex developer tools and pull batteries out of remotes to keep your smart home running is simply not what you can expect from a premium product.
The community shares your frustration, and the reason for this is a design flaw that Athom made with the 2023 model:
- The Multiprotocol deception: Athom chose a cheaper chip design where Zigbee and Thread have to share the same antenna. In theory that sounded nice, but in practice, Thread networks (especially given the specific way IKEA firmware sends data) completely overload this chip over time.
- Isolated problem: Users who run their IKEA Thread devices directly on an Apple TV or Home Assistant network almost never experience these crashes. The problem therefore lies in how the Homey Pro 2023 handles this in its software.
Many users who made the switch feel let down by Athom because the marketing promised the 2023 version would improve everything. As a small consolation: thanks to the more powerful processor, the Zigbee and Z-Wave parts of the 2023 model are genuinely faster and can handle much larger networks than the 2019 version. But that does not excuse the Matter drama.
@Hans_Heintz
No offence but please translate, English forum…
@Jocke_Wallen Sorry, corrected
The solution would be to either buy an external thread hub or to reinstall the ikea matter devices as zigbee. AI is very satisfied about my zigbee setup so that would be the way to go 
