HP2023 keeps having hardly any free memory, fault in latest firmware?

[Roger_Gorissen]

The last week my HomeyPro 2023 has some strange behavior:

• goes offline repeatedly: the HP app shows a message my HP is offline, which means it is not reachable from within the app and the flows don’t function anymore.

• the used memory rises enormously: 1,9 of 2 GB used. I didn’t install any new apps or something like that. With hardly any free memory, the HP203 becomes wobbly, is not stable.

The only thing I changed is installing the new, latest, firmware. I’ve got the idea that that is quite heavy for the hardware. Anyone else experiencing the same issue?

I keep disabling apps, the ones I hardly ever use, so the used memory has to decrease. It decreases at first, but not for long.
This shouldn’t be the case, keep on removing or disabling. It limits the use of the HP2023.

Of course I restarted the Homey, but with no difference. If so, the used memory rises again till about 1,8 GB.
Restarting in 2 ways: using the command in the app, and by PTP. I’m not sure weather the last method is useful with the HP2023. Only with the HP2019.
The “funny” part: after rebooting not all apps will start. Sometimes the HP has less memory to restart an app!

Anybody any idea what’s going on? Does the latest firmware causes this kind of issues? Bad memory management, not freeing unused memory. If so, can I go back to a previous one?
Anyone any other idea??

[OH2TH]

I have my HP23 restarting multiple times a day. Once even just freeze with no indication of crash to red led circle.
This started happening sinve the v12.8.0 firmware.

[Martijn_Roodenburg]

Same problem with my homey pro

[Martijn_Roodenburg]

After restarting, keeps filling up memory.

[Lipas]

Same problem with my HP23. Latest firmware (updated yesterday), but no luck. Red light, red light…

[Roger_Gorissen]

So, if I conclude correctly, more people are having trouble with their HP after installing one of the latest firmware versions.

I really never had any problems whatsoever with the memory c.a. I hate it when I have to disable apps because of such a vague reason.

[Peter_Kawa]

@Roger_Gorissen

the latest firmware

Please, use version numbers instead of “latest”.
Also very important, is it an RC or is it a live version?
This is also shown by the version number, like the firmware page shows.
And which RC version significant as well.
Thanks!

[Roger_Gorissen]

Fair remark.

My latest firmware version is 12.9.0-rc.10

It’s quite remarkable that previous rc’s have remarks about handling memory.

[Peter_Kawa]

Thanks.
Yeah but the nodejs v22.20.0 update might be influencing stuff as well.
In case you want to revert to stable firmware, that’s quite straightforward:

[HowTo][Pro 2023/Mini] Revert from experimental to stable firmware

[As tested by @Henk_Renting and @Mickel_Luiten (Thx!)] Limitations Without an offline backup, you couldn’t & you can’t revert from the current stable firmware to the previous stable firmware version Example: Reverting from v10.2.1 to v10.2.0 → Reverting from v10.2.1-rc.1 to v10.2.0 → → Click here for the Homey Pro 2016-2019 howto How to: Disable experimental updates @ https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/settings Disabling experimental updates is key h…

[Roger_Gorissen]

All right, will take a look.

According to your picture I can go back to 12.8.2, the last stable version.
I don’t have offline backup, as far as I understand your post correctly, that’s necessary, a condition, to go back to the previous, stable, release (without rc’s). Or am I wrong concerning the offline backup?

[Peter_Kawa]

Correct.

The offline (or cloud) backup is only needed in case something is not going right:

@[HowTo][Pro 2023/Mini] Revert from experimental to stable firmware

NOTE: You’ll need the backup when things went wrong; so, there’s no need for restoring backups when this procedure succeeds

When you have no backup at all, I’d create a local backup ASAP if I were you.
For whatever (other) reasons things can go wrong at some point, and a backup of the current state puts your Homey back online with little effort.

But, again, installing the v12.8.2 software update does not affect any user setting.

[Roger_Gorissen]

@Peter_Kawa

When you have no backup at all, I’d create a local backup ASAP if I were you.

I have a backup subscription. I thought with a offline backup is meant a backup located on a local drive, not on Homey’s cloud.

The backup is only mentioned for security, just in case putting the firmware back isn’t going well.

So, is the 12.8.2 less demanding of the Homey resources, compared to the later versions because of the adoption of nodejs v22.20.0?

[Peter_Kawa]

I see. An offline backup is a 1:1 copy of your system at some point in time: imho the easiest way to revert to some earlier state, including the firmware version and non-app store apps.

Cloud backups only saves & restores your personal stuff, but when restoring it downloads the current firmware version and only downloads the apps you had installed, from the app store (CLI / communitystore apps need to be installed manually, ‘luckily’ all related devices and settings are restored).

@Roger_Gorissen

So, is the 12.8.2 less demanding of the Homey resources, compared to the later versions because of the adoption of nodejs v22.20.0?

I can’t say, only Athom or firmware experts could imho.
On my Pro 2019’s a few apps started to use 5 - 15 MB more RAM. System load doesn’t seem affected.
But Pro 2023 is different and might respond in a different way.