Homey Self-Hosted Server on Synology | Megathread

Homey Self-Hosted Server
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It is my understanding that SHS only works directly with the Homey Bridge for extra antennas, like Zigbee. Not with third party antennas. I read that other users use intermediary tools like Zigbee2MQTT and/or HA and then import the devices via the respective apps in Homey.

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@Doekse Already confirmed that third party Thread Border Routers can be used with Homey SHS.

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With additional tooling:

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Homey Self-Hosted Server can indeed work with any Thread Border Router on the local network

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Yes I did, two monitors, my home pro on the left with everything I had and homey SHS on the rightā€¦. I cleaned some stuff up along the way that was not used anymore and actually found some mistakes :slight_smile:

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Correct. And for a reason also. Ease.

Not all dongles are equal, the homey bridge is propriety Athom and so is the homey software so they way they work together is optimalā€¦

If you go for home assistant there is a larger plethora of different types of dongles you can use (and have to maintain). Itā€™s a choice.

You could throw a dongle in a home assistant configuration, link your zwave/zigbee to that and then Mqtt that towards homeyā€¦ but you would have to like doing thatā€¦ installing the bridge is 2 seconds and it just works.

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You could use also:

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I have the same problem that I cannot login into the webinterface: did you solve it?

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You do not logon to the server, you just add into your homey app.

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Thank you! That works. Still wondering what kind of login this is, and what it will show.

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That is for local access @Siepje, which you can configure when you go to http://my.homey.app and follow this guide:
https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/22924537226268-Using-Local-Users-on-Homey-Pro

(Make sure you select the right Homey first by clicking your profile photo/initials in the richt upper corner, if you have multiple Homeyā€™s)

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Iā€™m using Homey SHS on Synology in combination with a SONOFF Dongle Max that is connected via ethernet.

In short, I have:

  • Homey SHS docker
  • Mosquitto docker as my MQTT broker. Alternatively you can use the MQTT Broker app on Homey
  • Zigbee2MQTT docker
  • Zigbee2MQTT app on Homey
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Iā€™m trying to use it with OpenThread, not with Zigbee.

OBTR doesnā€™t play well with Synology

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May need to rethink Homey SHS on Synology. Just realized that when my DS224+ is backing up to my DS115 via HyperBackup, Homey SHS sometimes times out and prevents me from saving flows. Anyone else experiencing similar timeouts when the NAS is busy?

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I think it is maybe a coincident with the problem of backingup a running sqlite DB described here: Homey SHS - Backup strategy for running docker - #11 by Olex

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I have known this behaviour with my regular HP23 sinceā€¦forever

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Thank you. Iā€™m new to Homey and unfamiliar with its idiosyncrasies. Appreciate the feedback.

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Hi, I have been planning how to deal with potential performance and reliability consequences of SHS on Synology.

  • Homey Pro as dedicated platform optimised for low latency and high-frequency I/O
  • SHS on Synology (x86) optimised for (shared) general-purpose computing, storage, and virtualization

Iā€™ve discovered several variables that could affect performance (my old DS918+ 8GB has Celeron CPU with 4 cores/4 threads/1.5Ghz-2.3 Ghz, cache 2MB L2, so only slightly faster than HP R-Pi CM4).

Compete for memory (assuming 8GB)

Container Manager (best on SSD if you can): High-frequency, random I/O

  1. Lower priority for Downloads (eg. NZBget)
    In container settings, set CPU low, hard memory limit to 1024MB each.

  2. High priority for SHS
    Project YAML configuration: CPI to high priority (weight 2048), hard memory limit to eg. 3072MB, soft memory limit to 2048MB

    services:
  homey-shs:
    image: ghcr.io/athombv/homey-shs:latest
    container_name: homey-shs
    restart: unless-stopped
    network_mode: host
    privileged: true
    # Added CPU Priority and Deploy Memory Resources
    cpu_shares: 2048
    volumes:
      - ./:/homey/user
    deploy:
      resources:
        reservations:
          memory: 2100M
        limits:
          memory: 3000M

Compete for storage, disk I/O (examples)

Container Manager: You can consider moving one container to another volume than SHS

Surveillance Station (best on HDD): High-frequency, sequential writes.

  1. Multiple pools: write to a different storage pool than SHS: Set camera recording storage pool to another volume
  2. One pool: use shared folder quotas to prevent SS from filling the entire drive and leaving no room for Container Manager or download

I would love to hear of your experience with SHS on Synology. Any hick-ups?

Tips welcome.

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Which is why HA also has its own set of dongles.

Another reason to use something other than the Bridge is because itā€™s outdated. Itā€™s Zigbee chip cannot handle more than about 15 devices before instability can occur, for instance.

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The aforementioned issue with saving flows when my NAS was backing up. I have a DS 224+ for reference. Iā€™m now running the SHS add-on for Home Assistant instead and itā€™s been problem free. Very happy with the performance. No issues with Homey or HA since installation.