I have tried other “else” cards. But “else” never triggers.
The flow should do the following:
When lights go on, a timer is set.
If the timer is done check if there is still movement. If so, turn lights off, else, set a new timer to check again in X minutes.
Besides the else not triggering ur flows are not correct.
Best start a timer when motion went off.
Someone made a nice topic about it alr.
When timer is empty ur motion sensor is alr off, otherwise it should have triggered a renew of the timer so a check in the AND part is not needed.
Hard to tell if the else is really not triggered from your example. Have you tried putting a (different) notification before and after the else to see what really happens?
In the flow web editor you may get more information on why the error occurred (either as a “pop up” or when you hover the mouse pointer over the red triangle, not sure which).