Funny though that this is exactly the biggest problem with cloud based lights (sockets, camera’s etc.) in a smarthome.
I think i now have spend €150,- on “Tuya” stuff knowing it might stop working tomorrow.
If i’d spend the €150,- on Hue i would have had one floodlight instead of 4 and it wouldn’t even be an rgb one.
And to be honest the Tuya stuff works great with the Smart Life app (and HA).
Stay away from cloud(-forced) connected products or accept they still own the product and you may use it as long as they will support it.
It has been an amazing discussion to follow. For me you dont buy an eco system called Homey. You buy all kinds of brands of gadgets and a seperate bridge to connect them all called Homey. So they are isolated gadgets that you select and based on certain criteria, for Tuya devices their cloud lockin is one of those. Then you use the features of all these elements and make something nice out of them to creae a eco system, my own. The very essence is that Homey supports its device and OS with all it beautifull capabilities, one of those is being able to build and deploy apps that enable new integrations with those other gadgets. No where is this guarantee it will truly support all, it brings together all elements for you to be able to do so.
If those gadgets change their api behavior those apps will fail, if that gadget doesnt want to play nice anymore and locks itself down, it might not be fixable.
So the only thing here is the labal ‘official’ on this specific app. Maybe Athom is not smart in using the label. The label is used for apps that are made by, supported deeply by Athom or made by a registered developer of the gadget company.
In this case it was a made by Athom. There is still not a guarantee that the gadget company keeps playing nice. Even an app made by the gadget company can be dropped by that company at any time. That is a fact of live.
The circle of influence of Athom is just that, motivate those companies to keep playing nice. That failed in this instance.
Does not make the hardware, OS or other apps any worse for the fact.
The label official app just means something else than what some people expect. In my view this is truly the first debate to have, why did people expect a guarantee that an official app will always remain operational? As far as I know its very much a commitment to do so by Athom, but based on best efford.
And since the rise of Homey has been stable without a Tuya official Tuya app, it will remain to be sold to people who can see there is no official app, they will just make sure not to buy Tuya based devices, no harm done. Only those people that jumped on the Homey train in those 3.5 months because of this app are indeed a victim here, or if indeed people started to buy these devices becuase of this app. But like others have stated enough, it is a risk in smart sensor world that you stuff that doesnt work as well as you exect or doesnt deliver. I have a shelve with deprecated sensors and crap smart bulbs myself.
Interesting topic to follow. I have so many tuya devices and i was so excited to use the homey pro. So whats the bottom line? Do we think this issue will never be fixed officially and why is it still working for homeassistant? They only stopped the homey api and allow the home assistant?
We need to be patient. @Doekse will come with an update if there is anything to mention.
The integration for Home Assistant is a different approach compared to the app on Homey. We can only guess what the reasoning behind dropping support for one but not for the other, but it is useless as it doesn’t change the facts.
Yep, I’m just replacing everything I own that’s Tuya
I would be happy to pay 50% more for a product so it continues to work locally.
The only issues I’ve had with Homey Pro in the past nine months have always been Tuya wifi devices and TP Link wifi devices.
If Homey’s implementation of Zigbee wasn’t so reliant on devices being natively supported I would be happy to do more Zigbee.
I mean, can we at least support sockets and switches with more than one switch per device.
Matter + strong mesh wifi is the way forward and in the future devices supporting Thread 1.4.
I have been following this interesting discussion for quite some time. I personally have a wide variety of brands at home, all with the intention of integrating them as seamlessly as possible into Homey and controlling them from a single platform. Many of these devices are equipped with a Tuya chip.
I was also excited and curious about the arrival of an “official” Tuya app from Homey. After testing, I noticed that communication between my devices was genuinely faster, so I decided to switch everything over to the new app instead of using my developer account.
Despite all the discussions here, I also had certain expectations from Homey with an “official” app. However, the stance taken by Homey in the video I came across yesterday strikes me as far from professional and quite disappointing.
I hope Homey focuses on creating a constructive and highly functional solution for all Homey users, prioritizing simplicity, ease of use, and compatibility, rather than engaging in online mudslinging.
@Doekse honest question: when you replied to me last time, where you rightfully pointed me to an incorrect tone of voice, was this clip already recorded and if so, were you aware of it?
Because you made an appeal to assume good intentions and personal hard work, which sounded very reasonable, but given you have a founder saying this stuff on a well known dutch tech channel, forgive me for feeling this situation is handled with two faces.
this is it, we can close the topic, its done
Let’s not debate if this title is (much) better