All gates?

Sorry for posting stupid questions but things don’t make sense yet.
I’ve got this simple flow..

If I do a simple flow I can only have one When, not multiple, which is supper odd in my ST world but
advanced seems to be the way to go so here we are.
And I was told by the Homey AI this is the setup needed.

So if I understand this correct.

When
Motionsensor A & B (ALL) is off,
set a 3 minute timer,
motion sensor A & B and a ceiling light (ALL) are off,
then turn off lights..

But they don’t and I don’t get the logic behind why they don’t?
If I don’t put all, it’s any right?
Which means I have to have both ALL in place?

I’ll stop askign stupid questions when I understand the logic behind the flows but at the moment it’s REALLY hard..

TIA!

You can not use multiple triggers in an ALL card, because they will never trigger at exactly the same time.

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Hi!
Thanks!
So they sort of “forget” that something happened?
I thought it saved that sensor A reported it 2 minutes ago and Sensor B reported it now so it a Go for the next item in the flow?
But okay, I just learned about Zone Activity which seems to be a way of doing it. :smiley:

May I ask another thing.
Temp as a card.. That works really odd..
Temp is -4,9C atm, I’ve got a card saying if Temp is below -1 but I get False?

If I invert it and say that it’s Higher than -1 I get true.. But it’s not?
Temp should care about + or - right?

That’s likely a bug, you should report that to the app developer.

As soon as the event of one WHEN card occurs, the ALL card is evaluated. And as the other event cannot happen at the same time (as computers handle events sequentially) the AND card is never TRUE. If you can use the ANY card (or no card at all) to start the flow with more than one event.

So the logic is:

WHEN motion alarm 1 is turned on AND motion alarm 2 is on THEN …..

WHEN motion alarm 2 is turned on AND motion alarm 1 is on THEN …

Use a Logic card and the corresponding tag of your device.

I’m sorry, I’m really new to homey..

What logic card should I use? And would the tag be?

Aaah okay! Thanks, feel less stupid now.. :joy:

Okay.. That explains a lot..

Was told about zone activity which seems to solve the issue..

So many new things..

I was pretty good at ST since I’ve been using it since 2016 but things are completely different with homey when it comes to names and logic.

Love the advanced flows but I need to wrap my head around all functions.

Tags was different. :joy:

Some interestimg stuff:

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https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/4410240765586-Using-Homey-Logic-in-Flows