Homey Pro 2026 first thread installation

Questions & Help
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I am receiving tomorrow my brand new Homey Pro 2026 and I would like to migrate from my old Homey 2019 as soon as possible, as well as starting a new Homey thread network.

Problem is that I discovered that I already have a thread network sneakily created by my Google TV Streamer 4K, called Google-B669. I am also using Google Home for voice controlling all my Homey devices. I later purchased a Dirigera which I used so far only for old Ikea Tradfri devices, but lately installed a couple of new Ikea matter devices on it using my Android phone.

Android phone → Settings → Google Services → Thread Networks is now showing in available networks: Google-B669 Preferred - Google TV Streamer, DIRIGERA, so I guess first Google TV Streamer 4K created the thread network Google-B669, then DIRIGERA connected to it instead of creating its own thread network and my Android phone used to add the matter devices on DIRIGERA is now stuck on Google-B669.

If I disable Thread in my Google TV Streamer 4K, DIRIGERA is still showing Google-B669 and my Android phone is still showing Google-B669 Preferred - DIRIGERA, so I guess DIRIGERA became a TBR for Google-B669 and when I start Homey Pro 2026, it would join Google-B669 instead of creating its new thread network?

Several questions:

  1. Are there any app or utility on Android that can show me more details of the thread networks, TBR’s and others?
  2. How can I delete completely the existing Google-B669 thread network? No option In Google devices, google home or Android…
  3. Can I start new Homey 2026 without automatically joining Google-B669? Is thread enabled by default on Homey 2026?

Thank you for any help or suggestion :slight_smile:

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TL;DR: Use my.homey.app to add Matter-over-Thread devices, because it will solely use Homey’s TBR

Nice to read:
https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/12934291420060-Connecting-a-Matter-or-Thread-Device

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It’s a nightmare, but doable:
A. Quick workaround:
Get a factory resetted (old) phone to add Matter-over-Thread devices to Homey

or:
B. Another evening and all patience gone:

  • Remove the google home app
  • Clear cache, and all data for Google Play Services
  • Power off the Google Nest Hub device & wait for 5 mins
  • In the Homey app, go to Settings > Thread and let it sync - allow network access when requested;
    google TBR should have vanished

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https://tools.developer.homey.app/tools/matter

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Yes (as in: I didn’t enable anything for it to work).

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Thank you so much Peter, solution B. worked like a charm, I even disabled thread on my Google streamer, shut it down, as well as my dirigera.

I setup my new homey 2026, then restored a fresh back up of my old homey 2019, first think I did what to check Homey Settings - > Thread and it was all good (Preferred Thread Network Available and Homey’s Thread Network Available). Unfortunately, I did not think or making a screenshot at that point.

Then I went to check my old devices, but they were all in error, complaining app was not available, so I proceeded to reinstall all apps by clicking on each ‘no name app’, going to store and it could still find out which app then install it, one by one…

After all this, still none of my devices would work. Until I realise I did not shutdown the old Homey 2019. Thinking they might conflict on zigbee and zwave, I shutdown old Homey 2019, factory reset new homey 2026, setup then restored same fresh backup from old Homey 2019, this time all apps installed automatically and all my zigbee and zwave devices working fine.

Back to Homey Settings - > Thread but this time all wrong (Preferred Thread Network NOT Available and Homey’s Thread Network NOT Available). See screenshot 1:

Screenshot_20260131_004155_Homey
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Checking Android says preferred network Homey Pro but not TBR (While my Homey is on), see screenshot 2:

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Going back to homey, this time it says Preferred Thread Network NOT Available but Homey’s Thread Network IS AVAILABLE. Both have same name but different extended pan ID:

Screenshot_20260131_005911_Homey
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Any idea or suggestion? It looks like I am stuck with a ghost version of my old thread network created at first install, but factory reset was supposed to wipe out thread settings too, or at least I though :frowning:

Off to bed now, will continue tomorrow…

Marc