I need to complain about Homey’s backup service.
It’s not what I think of when you think backup.
You can’t just restore a single Flow, or something like that, if you make a mistake, you need to wipe/restore the unit “Homey”, wtf.
That is not how backups usually work. Oh well… lesson learned. It’s crap.
My Flow Version History app might be what you’re looking for 
I think you miss understand.
Well i know how do a backup of a flow by using ALT key to export the flow.
But it should be a normal backup to have it like:
flows and other stuff separated. in a backup.
Not needed to have a app or stuff. Just provide a normal backup service…
*** And it is a paid service you now ***
That user does not exist. The moderators here on this forum are volunteers, so they can’t change anything about the cloud backup feature.
Well some people here are working with the company.
And still the backup solution ls ilke sh**t. And like I said it is a paid service.
And yes i díd give feedback to there support ch as well. This is more to reach out to the public
@smarthomesven
Are you using the paid backup service? And do you think is a good backup service? Just like it is
You’ll find several suggestions for improvements to the backup feature/service on this forum. You might want to add your requests/ideas to the dedicated topic: Ideas & Suggestions - Homey Community Forum or reach out to Athom directly via Support | Homey.
In the meantime, there are alternatives. Like the Flow Version History app mentioned by @smarthomesven above or the manual export/import option you were referring to yourself.
Note that restoring a workable flow may also require the restore of variables, devices and apps that are no longer available/installed on your Homey. Maybe that’s why Homey currently only has the option to restore a full backup, as that covers all those additional elements.
I have no idea how they think, but the backup service paid is **** so to say.
Well, like I said.Paid and learned 10€
No good to use, unless to change unit or something when you might need a full backup, then it might be Ok?
I will use the export/import using the ALT key of flows and take the unit offline to make backup like I used to. It’s not expensive but still, no good for a 10€. “It should be a normal local backup function”
----> I don’t recommend the paid backup service for people <—
Don’t know much about scripts but @Halfwalker wrote a time ago a script to make a backup of flows and some other parts.
https://community.homey.app/t/homey-backup-and-restore-scripts-and-rendering-of-flows/154869
Please stop swearing, Mike, even when self censored . Thank you!
It’s just your personal view, here’s mine:
I’m very happy with the backup service, it didn’t let me down once.
It saved my ass multiple times, and I have no problem to pay the enormous amount € 0,833 / month since 2020.
NB. While the value for money seems to be your main concern: You probably never heard of a free backup service (don’t tell anyone):
https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/12402204219164-Back-up-and-restore-Homey-Pro
I have to say, that the paid backup has saved me from a lot of pain when my Homey Pro 23 died a while ago. If there was no backup, I wouldn’t have been able to restore my system to the replacement Homey.
For 10€ a year, that is great value for the money.
Now it would be nice, to have version control for advanced flows that you could return to a previous version of the flow.
You can already do that with Flow Version History
All revisions of your Flows will also be backed up with the Homey cloud backup subscription (if you have one).
Like I said, it might be handy if the unit dies. But for a normal backup it’s not.
I did not point to any person, but to the companys paid service.
A back up should be able to restore. like: devices/flows/settings etc,etc.
Without reset the unit
Reset the unit to restore a backup? And yes I will survive the 10€
Well if you still need to take it offline. Then the rpiboot is an option and make a backup of the user partition. But still, not on the fly so to say.
As far as I am aware, you don’t need to reset your Homey. You can restore a cloud backup from within the Homey app. It will then override your devices, flows, setting and insights. It will also download the latest stable version of any missing apps that the restored devices use. In essence you go back to the point in time when the backup was made.
My experience with backups:
So multiple types of (flow) backups for different purposes.
Restore a backup
First, make sure Homey Pro is reset to factory settings. After connecting to Wi-Fi, you can restore a backup if backups are available.
You are right, I don’t see a restore option in the backup section in the app. That option becomes available as part of the setup procedure.
Yep. That’s why I think the backup service is (hurty words)
But like I said earlier.
I do export/import by using the ALT -key when it comes to my flows, and I need to take it offline and make a backup using rpiboot (user partition)or full backup
Just a question. I understand that there is a problem with backup only flows.
But what is the problem that when you can only make a full backup that you have to reset the full device to restore a full backup? Then you know that all the hickups are gone.
Backup could be very handy. But what happens when you restore the flows after you have renamed a couple of devices or moved them to another zone? Will the flows then still working?
Yes, if you only use devices in your Flows then they will stay working, the IDs are the same. If you use zone activity then you’ll need to change the zone in the Flow afterwards.
