Best indoor Motion Sensor?

[Martijn_Hoogenbosch]

Yes

[ProofofD3ath]

Does someone know which sensors are pet friendly with Z-wave? I have now the aqara sensors and they work fine but not with pets. Motion is triggered by the pets (dog/cat). If any one has some experience with sensors that don’t react on small dogs/cats I’m happy to hear which one (Z-wave sensor) you have been using. thanks you.

[Russell_S]

Not sure if you have any current sensors you can fool around with but I’ve found just placing the sensor a bit higher from the ground can help a lot.

Also try experimenting and fooling around by placing some tape over the bottom section of the PIR lens.

I currently use some cheap 433Mhz AliExpress PIR sensors designed for pet immunity. They work a charm if placed 2 meters from the ground .

[ProofofD3ath]

Nice, do you have a link or brand/model of the sensor?

[Russell_S]

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[Russell_S]

Also have very long battery life. Maybe 3-4 years …

[Baizimos1981]

I was wondering, now in 2024
Are there better motion sensors at this moment?

I have Fibaro sensors, but I’m not happy about them.

Batteries don’t last long, ect ect

Maybe you people have a new view after a few years about this topic.

Let me know

[Monit]

Sure, Frient is my favourite. Have tried different brands, but Frient is the most reliable one I have used. I haven’t had any problems with them. The Pro version also has temp and luminance sensors.

Although these are made for indoors, I have used them successfully outdoors as well and they seem to read even minus temperatures correctly. Not under the rain of course, but under the roof so rain hasn’t hit them.

[Rogier_Verheugen]

I have 7 Philips Hue motion sensors. At some point a needed 3 more but also noticed that my Hue Bridge reached the max amount of devices (65). So after some research I bought 3 Frient Motion sensors. You can have them. Works for 2 days. After that unreachable. Same as door sensors from Frient. Bought 8 of them. Horrible. I had to add more and more Smart Plugs (repeaters) they say. At one point I ran out of sockets

Also added a Homey Bridge upstairs trying to overcome this issue. No luck.

Frient repeater: Yes
Frient end device: No
Philips Hue motion sensor: absolutely Yes

Rogier

[Monit]

This is very suprising to hear. I have 27 Develco/Frient devices in my Zigbee and they all work like a charm. I haven’t had a single problem. They pair without any problem and run years without any issues or disruptions. I guess there is something else in your environment that makes them work poorly.

[Rogier_Verheugen]

Hi @Monit,

I am very interested in your setup.
1 Do you just use a Homey Pro or do you also have 1 or more Homey Bridges?
2 Of the 27 devices you mentioned, how many of does are end devices?
3 What is the maximum distance between an end device and a (zigbee) router. Like a smart plug?
4 “I haven’t had a single problem. They pair without any problem and run years without any issues or disruptions” Can I trust you on this? Never?
5 What kind of house do you have (perhaps I’m getting to personel )? Multiple storey’s?

Thanks in advance

Rogier

[Monit]

Hi

To be honest I have a long journey with smart home. Had a different hub and during all these years, I have struggled so much with unreliable devices and I am happy I have finally achieved a device combo that works for me at least.

• My best working devices are (~1 year or at least several months of experience with Homey Pro): Develco/Frient, Schneider Wiser. Plus Hue Bridge over Matter and Shelly Plus Uni over Wifi.
• Brands I have recently added, but I have yet enough experience to say anything: Lidl, Robb Smarrt
• Brands that I have used for long, but have not been fully reliable, but I have still kept them: Aqara
• Brands that do not work well so I have removed these: Osram, Ubisys, Danfoss Ally

And then to your questions:

1. Only Homey Pro 2023, no Bridge
2. 21 are end devices, so majority
3. Probably ~10 meters from attic to basement → Edit: Sorry I read your question wrong. Maximum distance from any end device to nearest router is perhaps just a few meters. I have a lot of routers around the house. Frient and other brands.
4. If I am perfectly honest then I remember this year probably once or twice the Frient motion sensor did not switch on the lights in basement, but when I left the room and re-entered then it worked again. So nothing major. For example I have never had a need to repair any of the Develco or Frient devices
5. 3 stories so Zigbee traffic is routed through routers for sure, but I do not know what the mesh is like since I have not found any app that would show me the Zigbee mesh in Homey Pro 23

[Peter_Kawa]

Hi Rogier,

Maybe here’s some useful zigbee info for you:

Advanced Zigbee Troubleshooting on Homey

If you’re experiencing issues with your Zigbee network on Homey, here are advanced troubleshooting steps to help optimize performance and stability, especially in more complex environments: Power Supply Integrity A stable power supply is critical for Homey’s performance. An underpowered adapter can lead to instability in the Zigbee network. Always ensure you’re using a reliable adapter providing at least 2A. Power fluctuations can cause disconnections or communication failures, especially un…

[Howard_DuLany]

I’m wondering if there are any motion sensors that let you clear the sensor motion alarm from a Homey Advanced Flow. I’m using a Zooz ZSE70 right now to control some outside spots. I turn on when motion is detected, delay x minutes and then shut off. Sometimes if someone is still outside I would would like the flow to turn the lights back on immediately. Unfortunately if the motion alarm is already on when the lights turn off and the flow completes it doesn’t run again. It only runs on new motion. If I could clear the motion alarm when turning off I think the flow would run when motion is detected again. I created a virtual switch to disable the flow if I want to keep the lights on for a longer period but it would be nice to get it to behave more like standard motion detection lights.

[Peter_Kawa]

@Howard_DuLany

if there are any motion sensors that let you clear the sensor motion alarm from a Homey Advanced Flow.

Not that I know of; you’re supposed to tune the so called “blind time” or “motion hold time” on the sensor’s settings.
Usually these are set to 60s by default, sometimes to 15s, only to save battery power.

When you’re lucky, there’s a setting present in the “device settings” part of the related Homey app.
Some sensors have hardware trim knobs on the back.

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After some experimenting, I found this to be a perfect way to eliminate the “being left in the dark” problem:

@Peter_Kawa

To prevent the light (or other device) from turning off (or on), while there’s still motion detected.
It uses Homey’s Zone Activity AND a timer.
This way your motion- & contactsensors become exchangeable and expandable, without having to fix the flow.

This way, you can add a sensor, remove one (use 1 sensor minimum), use one with another protocol (f.i. zigbee/wifi/z-wave) in a zone.

Apps used

• Chronograph

Flow example:

Note:
I do not use the “zone has been inactive for x minutes” trigger on purpose. It’s not proven stable in my experience.

[Howard_DuLany]

Thanks for the suggestion. I hadn’t thought of creating a specific zone as a trigger. I created a pretty simple flow below. I put the motion sensor and rear house door in a zone and used the zone active/inactive as triggers. Rather than a timer I just used zone has been inactive for x minutes card. I’m pretty new to Homey and just started experimenting with Advanced flows. I haven’t created multiple “when” paths before and not sure how they behave. Does this seem like it will work? I just want the lights on when there is motion or the rear door opens at night and turns off when there is no motion for a period of time. Thanks again.

[FKey]

@Howard_DuLany

I’m wondering if there are any motion sensors that let you clear the sensor motion alarm from a Homey Advanced Flow.

Check out this thread, this might be a solution for you too

[HOW TO] Gain full control over Zone Activity using Motion Sensors (PIR), Presence Sensors (Aqara FP300) and Virtual Motion Triggers

UPDATE: Added implementation using AQARA FP300 presence sensor below Introduction This is not a guide on how to implement a specific use case, but rather a framework that will give you full control over zone activity. Many flows like turning on/off lights could be done much simpler. However, when my personal flows became more complex, I ran into a lot of caveats and quirks that caused me to rethink how I work with motion sensors. I came up with this system which allowed me to solve all the bugs …

[Howard_DuLany]

Thanks. I’ll investigate this. I actually think my flow above will do what I need. I tested it in a daylight setting by removing the sunset-sunrise cards. I’m going to test it tonight with those added back in to see how it works. I also realized I only need the sunset card. The sunrise was redundant and isn’t needed. On my own, I wouldn’t have come up with zone status to control the flow. I’m learning more each day.