[APP][Pro] Power by the Hour: Insights per hour, day, month and year

This means you have to wait for the device to get initialized. This sometimes takes a few minutes, and during that time you cannot save your changes.
The timeout messages are not really related, it’s just “complaints” from the Homey interface it didn’t get a response “in time”, but the initializing process continues nonetheless.

Yes, can add that yesterday, the price was projected correctly again from 13:42 hrs. Have changed “price now” in flows from PBTH to the “power bill” app. PBTH can not be trusted.

But my original device that I wanted to change settings for has been there for a very long time (a couple of years), and it has worked fine. It’s just that now I get these errors if I try to change the settings.

I see. Does an app restart make a difference?

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It did not. But for some reason, today it did work. I changed one setting, and it saved successfully. Then I tried another, and it failed. Waited for some time (maybe half an hour, didn’t really pay attention), and then I was able to change the remaining setting. Quite weird, really.

Does it respond differently when using the web- or phone app?
Because for me the web app is very unstable since the recent update v1.11.35, almost unusable (in common, not PbtH related).

When I first discovered this yesterday, I tried with the phone app after first seeing issues with the web app, but it was the same. So no difference for me, at least not when I tested it yesterday.

Right. Yeah it just crossed my mind as possible cause. I’ve no further ideas atm.

I had the same issue today again. correct for a couple of minutes past 13 hrs. then dropped to incorrect value. Correct value did not re-establish until 14:14 hrs.

I had not paid attention to the new tariff system in PBTH (I am using another app as my main app for tracking costs), but it seems that now there is no way of manually setting the current tariff in a power summarizer device in PBTH? The only flow card allows to set a tariff group, but not the actual tariff.

Does this mean it is not possible to set the tariff manually (in a flow) any longer? What am I missing here?

Edit: never mind. I just found that there is a flow card for this, but it seems to belong to the app itself, and not any of the devices…

I have a question about the card “The price is one of the X highest in the Y hours before Z”. I hope I translated it correctly from Dutch “De prijs is één van de X hoogste in de Y uren voor Z uur”.

I use this card to discharge my solar filled home battery on the most expensive hours during the night. But someting strange happens.

The flow where this card is used is activated at 16:00 hours each afternoon. I use the following parameters:

Yesterday after 16:00 hours (and before 9:00 this morning) there were two different price peaks. One around 18:00-20:00 yesterday evening and one around 7:00-9:00 this morning.

So, what I expect is the the Battery will discharge on two different moments, but what happened is the following:

One flat line from 100% capacity to 0%.

It looks like the card doesn’t know about the second price peak the next morning. I’ve witnessed this behavior a couple of times now the last week. I’m not sure if it worked correct before.

Could this be related to the correct prices issue mentioned in the last couple of posts in this topic?

Or do I interpretate the PBTH card incorrect?

@Gruijter At the moment there seem to be no prices for tomorrow available in the app. Can this have something todo with the switchover to quarterly-prices pet 1-oct?

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Changes to an app can only end up on your Homey when an updated app version is installed, Walter; v6.7.2 (May 24th) is the most recent one.

I wonder, does it get detected by a flow, Kai? I suspect it would.

This simple “price is changed” triggered flow

outputs this (and correct prices)

Time has stopped on all my Power by the Hour virtual devices.

Since yesterday afternoon, prices did not get updated properly. I have restarted Power by the Hour, and have waited today whether the daily price update at approx. 13:00 would automagically solve the problem … but it did not.
I managed to once update the price by removing the “NL_Netherlands” virtual device and adding it again; it updated prices but after an hour the prices did not update i.e. price now stay’d as is and did not take over value from price + 1 hour.
I have tried again to remove “NL_Netherlands” virtual device, and added it again … but can not edit the data (like 21% VAT, add-on of €0.1476/kWh, change Tariff group from std 0 to 1).
Looks like my Power by the Hour install has failed on me.

Any ideas how to resolve, as I am afraid that when I remove the app all my collected data from for instance my 3 Sessy batteries will be gone.

On GitHub I have posted screen shots and progress of the steps I have done and what I experienced. See issue #294 with title “Advancing of the time has stopped; resulting in wrong kWh prices and not starting charging/discharging of my Sessy homebatteries” #294

I suppose it would. Can set up a test for it. But apparently the price between 13 and 14 worked as it should today.

I’m running that version

And if I click on the device in the web-app and close the setting-window I get the error message ‘an error occured while loading the image’. Something definitely is wrong here.

On my issue that time stopped in my Power by the Hour app, I had decided to de-install the app, reboot my Homey Pro, and then reinstall.

I can install the E-prices (virtual) device for NL_Netherlands, but in no way I am able to save (advanced) settings as can be seen in the print screen below:

I had the same problem before I deinstalled Power by the Hour app.
I assume that something is wrong, but it starts to be out of my reach to resolve.
Any advise?

It seems the quarter hour tariffs are causing different issues with Homey (not only PBTH). For 1 October no tariffs are shown at PBTH.

On the Homey energy tab tariffs per 15 minutes are displayed, but every 15 minutes for the ‘next hour’?! That can be visual, but no way to get the same tariffs the energy company charges (ANWB). Most energy companies (like ANWB) continue using hourly tariffs: how to calculate hourly prices (the real charged prices) from 15 minute prices used in Homey? I tried calculating average prices, but that doesn’t solve.

Until today the prices ANWB (and probably other energy companies offering dynamic tariffs as well) charges could be exactly calculated from both PBTH and Homey energy. Hope this will be possible soon again and if somebody has found a workaround please share.