SHS - Homey Bridge vs Zigbee2MQTT

I already have home assistant on a different server with that setup (mqtt and home assistant community app) and i’m actually trying to get rid of it since homey nowadays has all the integrations that i was using from home assistant before and i’m trying to make my setup a bit simpler. It’s not the z-wave causing the issues since same delays are happening with zigbee door / window sensors as well so i’m prettysure the delay happens when homey bridge is telling shs that something has happened. Now it has been a bit better in a way that i haven’t noticed those couple of seconds spikes, but the ping is still pretty much constant +100ms no matter where i place the bridge. I can live with that as long as the delay doesn’t get worse than that.

Perhaps you misunderstood my comment. Z-Wave operates at below 1000 MHz and will not interfere with Zigbee or Wifi, but 2.4 GHz Wifi and Zigbee operate on the same frequency worldwide and can interferre with each other if the selected channels are too close to each other. Unifi and many other WiFi systems are known to cause issues with Zigbee. I don’t have Unifi myself, but I have read many accounts of issues on other forums and I would be surprised if there’s not something on this forum about it as well.

There are many guides to minimizing the issue. I’ve written one such guide in the past. Here’s one from Open Home Foundation. Hope this is helpful.

How many zigbee and z-wave devices are you trying to use?

In my experience, the Homey Bridge is not powerful enough for any substantial number of devices. When migrating from Homey Pro 2023 to SHS, I experienced a total collapse of my zigbee network after adding approximately 40 devices to the bridge. The majority were routers and these were added first. I switched to zigbee2mqtt and this has been running stable since.

Depending on how many z-wave devices you have, it may or may not be an option, but have you considered an approach in which you move your zigbee network to zigbee2mqtt and keep your z-wave devices on the Homey Bridge?

It’s the same zigbee chip as 2016-2019 Homey models (if I’m informed right).
Athom advises 30 - 40 devices max. for these, so I think you ran into the limit in your setup.

Performance depends on many other things. One user reported to use 70 zigbee devices with Homey 2019.

Hi All, as I am currently renovating my house after a large house fire, I am in the “luxury” position to rethink my Homey setup. I currently have a HP2023, another HP2023 in the box (insurance) and I do have a Synplogy NAS. Since it is rather a complex house with lots of thick concrete walls I was considering running SHS on the NAS and on each additional floor a HP2023, but I am not looking forward in managing this config. Plus, I want to reduce my power footprint so turning of the NAS for periods a day is also a consideration. So, another thought I have is buying a raspberry PI5, 16GB with SSD, and than have 3 bridges (one per each floor). But I am not sure if this will work (or how) do I still need dongles on the Pi SHS, or will the bridges serve as the antenna’s? and will the all be primary antennas, or wil one by the primary and the other 2 serve as repeaters? and will I have the same protocols available as I have with HP2023… Any thoughts/experiences/advise?

Since you post your question in this topic, I suppose you are referring to Zigbee mainly?

I would the recommend using Zigbee2MQTT, i.e. with a SMLight Zigbee Gateway (I have 2 SLZB-06’s).
You would need as MQTT server on your NAS or Homey, but it is far more stable than Homey’s Zigbee integration.
And if range would really be a problem (I doubt it with just 1 thick concrete wall), you simple connect multiple Zigbee Gateways that report yo the same MQTT server.
Ypu can then import all those devices into a single Homey / SHS to control them all in one central place.

One unadvertised option is to run Homey SHS as an App (formerly known as Add-Ons) inside Home Assistant. Mine is running on a Raspberry Pi 4 and it works very well.

This allows you to have many options, such as Z2M running on HA with any Zigbee controller you want, and either share devices with Homey SHS via the Home Assistant Community app or Z2M bridge on Homey. You can also use both if you wish. You will also be able to utilize Z-Wave, Bluetooth and IR from HA to use with Homey SHS, plus all the other local network and cloud integrations on HA.