This…
Sorry, but I’ve not been on this forum for years, nor do I keep track of what everyone’s skills are on any forum I’m on.
Perhaps someone else will benefit from my post. 
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Yeah, for now it seems that HA is the way to go. In HA the app gets updated quite a lot. It is not the most user-friendly way to get the token if you are an EU citizen, but is it doable. After getting it into HA, I pull it over to Homey. For me, that’s the perfect world.
Thanks for clarifying this point. In Canada, we don’t have to do such a thing and so connecting is very simple. The HA integration had a period of great stability, then many cloudflare issues, then the cloud server issue was resolved and the integration was taken over by another developer. It has been very stable ever since. I also have an integration (Canada and US only) running on Hubitat that has been rock solid, even when the HA integration wasn’t working.
Long enough time for me to decide not to buy a Hyundai/Kia more in my lifetime. They made it clear : we care not of our customers.
The real reason they shut down API is because higher demands on their servers. Instead of expanding and building out their server park, they f**k they’re cudtometd, shut down the api, keep the same server racks and pat their selves in their boardroom mettings.
Good to know
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They don’t want to expand their server park to keep up the demand.
I have already deactivated the app and have a test drive with a Homey-compatible model next week. I have informed Kia that I will no longer be purchasing a Kia/Hyundai.
Just got my Kia plumber van PV5 
with the new Pleos car software.
