# Zigbee rewrite- petition **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Created:** [March 9, 2020, 1:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904 "2020-03-09T01:28:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robin_van_kekem/32/8187_2.png) [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](https://community.homey.app/u/Robin_van_Kekem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/129 "2020-07-08T12:15:17Z")
It looks like, judging by the comment of Ted, there are developers who know in advance? > [@\[APP\] Aqara & Xiaomi Smart Home - A different kind of Smart Home solution (Zigbee App)](https://community.homey.app/t/aqara-xiaomi-smart-home-zigbee-app-v0-8-0/156/1817): > > Feedback from my side on this announcement: Yes, Athom has just released the new SDK3 documentation and initial test version of v5 to the Homey community Zigbee app developers, after already updating their own Zigbee based apps. Current state of the supporting zigbeedriver and zigbee-clusters node modules is only in a (IMHO) rudimentary state; able to support their own Zigbee apps, but not able to support the larger variation of Zigbee apps. At this moment, I feel I am forced to first support… ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/130 "2020-07-08T12:16:05Z")
> [@Robin\_van\_Kekem](#): > > It looks like, judging by the comment of Ted, there are developers who know in advance? The ones that signed an NDA, yes. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/justin/32/23485_2.png) [@Justin](https://community.homey.app/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 12:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/131 "2020-07-08T12:32:24Z")
Soo… A moderator, not saying one bad word about Homey, even through your sh\*t on by them you still work for them… You should amost expect that you’re on the payroll 😉 … Or, is there a family member that’s working there? Well, I do not even want to know. And no, I will not. I could though… I’m a PHP, MySQL and JS (jQuery) web developer and designer. I could learn, but no sorry I am not interested. I bought this device because it was supposed to be a ‘easy, no need to learn programming, program your house’ device. But in theory, without my knowledge in programming I could never create the flows that I have right now. ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/132 "2020-07-08T16:51:31Z")
Please do not argue about uncovered eggs. Wait and see what makes 5.0 better. Compared to other smart home systems, we have few problems. There will never be a perfect system. I’ve tested a few systems and Homey is the best I’ve ever had. I say this out of conviction and do not get any money from Athom for it. Of course I am annoyed with Homey. But when I think back to the other manufacturers, the swearing is at the highest level. Let’s talk about it when 5.0 is available and give developers room to breathe. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/134 "2020-07-08T20:36:16Z")
Since when are moderators paid by Athom? You realize this is a community with users & developers that spare a lot of their free time here for free? It’s a bit (understatement) negative towards those people imho. And again a very hard kick towards people that stay positive and refuse to burn down the device and the company. Like very rude and disrespectful personal attack on a moderator and really not open minded towards ppl that think otherwise. And you check the forum 30 minutes every day? Great job. But i’d rather have that the Athom developers spend their time doing useful things instead of crawling through all those whining topics answering ppl that will never be satisfied. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/justin/32/23485_2.png) [@Justin](https://community.homey.app/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/135 "2020-07-08T21:23:34Z")
You’re not reading what i’m saying Peter … I just find it extremely strange that I burn down the Athom management and praise the community and still get a response from a moderator and developer as if he feels personally attacked. That tells me there’s something more behind it. @RoyWissenburg … I am not complaining about the rewrite 🙃 As far as I can read, it was a very nescassary update. I’ve read some users posting that they wanted this update more then 2 years ago and when they came back, it was still not done. Sounds like it has been a big issue. My point is that I see @TedTolboom saying ‘I am sorry guys but I have to go on my holiday before fixing the rewrite, soo please disable the updates’, that gives me a big ‘what the hell?’. Why should a community developer apologize for not being able to spend free time? And even more important; why does Athom state ‘our developers have been notified but could probably not keep up’, but looking at the discussion above nobody knew \* about this?! The community developers, you guys, are building this product. They are marketing the product as if the development team is the great engine, but in fact the community developers are the magicians. That’s my whole point of what I am stating in the messages above. It’s a great strategy, not making enough money to hire specialists soo let the community work for us, but… As mentioned before; • Telling lies about ‘developers are already working on it’ in last email; • Saying that a none-working BLE is the fault of a developer while it’s stuck since their last update; • Not being interested in what the community developers are facing on the forums. … Nah, sorry. I really disagree on that approach. … **Edit after a few seconds:** Read my opinion as a big thanks to all the community developers. My Homey contains only one Athom app, the rest of my house functions on your programming. I just wish that Athom would give you guys more credits and tools to work with. Room for improvement. Let’s just hope that it does not take two more years or if it does, let’s hope that they think of another way to earn more money and keep the company alive. Cause this will not last forever this way. ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/136 "2020-07-08T21:56:01Z")
Sure. Whatever. Keep it up. Be negative. Burn the witches. Pull down the statues. Condemn everything that you dislike and above all try to force your opinion to others. Maybe they will listen and you will feel happy. Maybe you should apply to the job of CEO of Athom and show the world you can do it WAY better. ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/justin/32/23485_2.png) [@Justin](https://community.homey.app/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/137 "2020-07-08T22:14:52Z")
‘Oogkleppen’ 👋🏼 ---
**Author:** ![PetervdK](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/petervdk/32/20669_2.png) [@PetervdK](https://community.homey.app/u/PetervdK)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/138 "2020-07-08T22:33:12Z")
Yep. You really should take them off. You almost made me feel guilty of having a working Homey and being happy about that. Maybe you should go to the Malieveld and protest against the fact that some ppl have a working Homey and you don’t. Sue them! Condemn them! Ban them! … them! ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/justin/32/23485_2.png) [@Justin](https://community.homey.app/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 6:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/139 "2020-07-09T06:31:05Z")
It’s kinda funny that I am being accused of organizing a HLM demonstration while the title of the original topic is ‘Zigbee rewrite petition’. You’re very good at getting us back ontopic Peter, I vote for you at the next moderator voting 💪🏼😘 ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/140 "2020-07-09T08:15:52Z")
Yeah, who started this anyway? 😂 ---
**Author:** ![TedTolboom](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tedtolboom/32/12081_2.png) [@TedTolboom](https://community.homey.app/u/TedTolboom)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/141 "2020-07-09T08:38:32Z")
I guess I did… 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 8:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/142 "2020-07-09T08:46:06Z")
Yes u did! 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Justin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/justin/32/23485_2.png) [@Justin](https://community.homey.app/u/Justin)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/143 "2020-07-09T09:02:58Z")
And now stop responding on useless discussions and get back to recoding your apps Ted 😉 … _sarcasm_ 😘 (in case I get a hard slap in my face for whining) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/144 "2020-07-09T10:09:52Z")
Topic closed😄 ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 10:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/145 "2020-07-09T10:39:45Z")
🍿 ---
**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 11:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/146 "2020-07-09T11:21:44Z")
> [@TedTolboom](#): > > I guess I did… 😁 Naughty Ted 🍻. Greetings to the Netherlands anyway 😜. ---
**Author:** ![Satoer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/satoer/32/38113_2.png) [@Satoer](https://community.homey.app/u/Satoer)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 12:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/147 "2020-07-09T12:21:39Z")
![afbeelding](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/7/970da639dfcf0d2b5cabdbbd3f8865cc65c4a629.jpeg) I’m beginning to understand why Athom isn’t participating in any of the discussions on this forum. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Jan\_Peeters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jan_peeters/32/86660_2.png) [@Jan\_Peeters](https://community.homey.app/u/Jan_Peeters)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/148 "2020-07-09T12:27:21Z")
> [@Satoer](#): > > “…isn’t participating in any of the discussions…” There should be an automatic delay when posting a reply. My suggestion would be one of at least 48hrs 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/zigbee-rewrite-petition/26904/149 "2020-07-09T14:44:59Z")
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