# Z-Wave Shelly updates **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Tags:** z-wave\ **Created:** [January 24, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728 "2025-01-24T13:44:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/1 "2025-01-24T13:44:16Z")
Has somebody made firmware updates of Shelly Z-Wave or other Z-Wave manufacturer? I found only instructions over HomeAssistent. But i don’t want HA only to do Firmware Updates for ZWAVE. Any ideas or instruction links? ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/2 "2025-01-24T14:29:41Z")
Homey cannot perform OTA updates for Z-Wave. ---
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/3 "2025-01-24T23:11:11Z")
Yes i know. But the question is, has anywhere a step by step instruction to do it with pc contoller? To install home Assistent only for updates is not the solution. I bought a aerotec stick and install pc contoller, connect with homey, but then i get an error to read the firmware Information. ---
**Author:** ![Marcel\_Graff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/marcel_graff/32/121100_2.png) [@Marcel\_Graff](https://community.homey.app/u/Marcel_Graff)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/4 "2025-02-19T09:14:26Z")
I tried by buying an Aeotec Stick Gen5+ and doing as described but in the end, the stick is added to Homey Pro and PC controller but a firmware update can not be performed… -.- ---
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2025, 9:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/5 "2025-02-19T09:41:21Z")
Hi, have a lock at these Topic. It is in German but the same Problem. > [@Z-Wave Geräte-Firmware-Updates mit Homey durchführen](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-gerate-firmware-updates-mit-homey-durchfuhren/77283): > > Ein Manko der aktuellen Homeys (bis “Early 2019” und Bridge) ist meiner Meinung nach, dass man die Firmware von Z-Wave Geräten nicht aktualisieren kann. Um die Firmware zu aktualisieren, muss das Z-Wave Gerät von Homey exkludiert werden, die Firmware mittels eines entsprechenden Gateways oder einem USB Z-Stick aktualisiert, und anschließend wieder am Homey inkludiert werden. Dies hat allerdings zur Folge, dass die mit diesem Gerät bereits erstellten Flows zerstört werden. Eine Reparatur kann je… The result is, you cant make updates with your stick in homey. You can use a pc with a software or use home assistent. When you need more information also in english i can help a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mattias_andersson_au/32/121970_2.png) [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://community.homey.app/u/Mattias_Andersson_Au)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 4:12pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/6 "2025-06-30T16:12:01Z")
Hmm… Shelly & Homey devs…when can we get OTA updates? ---
**Author:** ![Asterix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/asterix/32/45768_2.png) [@Asterix](https://community.homey.app/u/Asterix)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/7 "2025-06-30T17:51:11Z")
You already can… 😉 > [@Z-Wave Geräte-Firmware-Updates mit Homey durchführen](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-gerate-firmware-updates-mit-homey-durchfuhren/77283/49): > > Hallo zusammen Ich habe es nun endlich geschafft via PC Controller Software, einem Aeotec Stick 5 meine Z-Wave Geräte via OTA auf die neuste Version zu heben💪🏽 Es war etwas ein Spiessroutenlauf, da meine Smarthome Kenntnisse immer noch begrenzt sind. Wenn man aber exakt der Anleitung von Shelly folgt, dann sollte es klappen. Diese wurde ja vor einigen Wochen aktualisiert, was mir sehr geholfen hat. Bis anhin habe ich folgende Geräte geupdatet und alles ohne einen Abbruch​:flexed\_biceps:t4:… ---
**Author:** ![Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mattias_andersson_au/32/121970_2.png) [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://community.homey.app/u/Mattias_Andersson_Au)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/8 "2025-06-30T19:35:05Z")
Hmm… Thank you for linking to a post with a guide… After reading the guide it would appear that extra z-wave USB controller connected to PC is required. > **[OTA Firmware Updates Without Removing Devices from Homey](https://support.shelly.cloud/en/support/solutions/articles/103000341790-ota-firmware-updates-without-removing-devices-from-homey)** > > Important Notice! Before proceeding, please ensure that the device is included in the gateway without secure inclusion. Firmware updates (OTA) cannot be performed on devices that were included using S2 secure inclusion. If the device is include... Is there no way of completing OTA update from Homey… This almost feels like we are not suppose to update the firmware of the devices keeping safety and functionality up to latest. > **[OTA Firmware Updates Without Removing Devices from Homey](https://support.shelly.cloud/en/support/solutions/articles/103000341790-ota-firmware-updates-without-removing-devices-from-homey)** > > Important Notice! Before proceeding, please ensure that the device is included in the gateway without secure inclusion. Firmware updates (OTA) cannot be performed on devices that were included using S2 secure inclusion. If the device is include... ---
**Author:** ![Asterix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/asterix/32/45768_2.png) [@Asterix](https://community.homey.app/u/Asterix)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/9 "2025-06-30T19:51:20Z")
> [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](#): > > Hmm… Thank you for linking to a post with a guide… After reading the guide it would appear that extra z-wave USB controller connected to PC is required. Only during the update… > [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](#): > > Is there no way of completing OTA update from Homey… This almost feels like we are not suppose to update the firmware of the devices keeping safety and functionality up to latest. I don’t quite understand what you mean by that? It’s not the best variant, but it works. So if you want to keep your devices up to date, then this is currently the only solution without home assistant… ---
**Author:** ![Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mattias_andersson_au/32/121970_2.png) [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://community.homey.app/u/Mattias_Andersson_Au)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 5:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/10 "2025-07-01T05:01:16Z")
What I ment was, that the process of keeping z-wave devices updated when having Homey as automation hub is not an integrated and sleek experience aligning with my perseption of Homey image. The whole issue driving this for me actually is the search for a solution of another problem where a Shelly wave PM1 looses inclusion and can not be reached after power outage. ---
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/11 "2025-07-01T07:04:06Z")
Hi, has you testet to restart the Shelly app an then the module is reconnected? I have sometimes the same problem ( but i have not often electrical problems). After restart the app of the vendor the modul is connecting and works fine. ---
**Author:** ![Asterix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/asterix/32/45768_2.png) [@Asterix](https://community.homey.app/u/Asterix)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 7:53am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/12 "2025-07-01T07:53:54Z")
Ahh ok, now i understand. Of course, it would be better if you could perform updates directly via Homey, but unfortunately not and will probably not change in the foreseeable future. In a You Tube podcast, Athom once talked about why this is not so easy to implement… My suggested variant would solve your problem and you could also keep all other devices up to date. ---
**Author:** ![Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mattias_andersson_au/32/121970_2.png) [@Mattias\_Andersson\_Au](https://community.homey.app/u/Mattias_Andersson_Au)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2025, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/13 "2025-07-01T20:48:29Z")
Hmm the Shelly app…? Can that app even be used with z-wave Shelly wave PM1 module? Have not found a way of pairing the module with Shelly phone app. ---
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/14 "2025-07-02T05:52:29Z")
No, Shelly App cannot manage Z-Wave Modules ---
**Author:** ![Asterix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/asterix/32/45768_2.png) [@Asterix](https://community.homey.app/u/Asterix)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/15 "2025-07-02T17:43:49Z")
If you mean the Shelly smartphone app, then no. If you mean the Shelly Homey app, then yes. ---
**Author:** ![Volker\_Genkel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/volker_genkel/32/79872_2.png) [@Volker\_Genkel](https://community.homey.app/u/Volker_Genkel)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 5:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/16 "2025-07-03T05:28:36Z")
Okay, we need a bit more clarity. Shelly App as a standalone App on Handy or Tablet cannot manage zwave devices. Shelly app on Homey can manage all devices but cannot update the devices. To Update Zwave device you need a separte smart home control center. I use a Zwave stick of Aquara an have Home Assistant on an Raspberry Pi. Also you can use Program on PC an a Zwave Sick. But the Software is not easy to use or I was too stupid to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Asterix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/asterix/32/45768_2.png) [@Asterix](https://community.homey.app/u/Asterix)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-shelly-updates/128728/17 "2025-07-03T09:52:16Z")
I completely agree to the point that the solution via home assistant is easier…