# Z-wave issue items turns on with out active flow

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-issue-items-turns-on-with-out-active-flow/73369>\
**Category:** Devices\
**Created:** [December 10, 2022, 7:27am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-issue-items-turns-on-with-out-active-flow/73369 "2022-12-10T07:27:20Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 10, 2022, 9:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-issue-items-turns-on-with-out-active-flow/73369/2 "2022-12-10T21:03:52Z")

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Install [Flow Checker](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-flow-checker/50986) if you didn’t already.

- Disable the zwave app(s) involved.
- After a while, Flow Checker will report which flows are used with zwave devices.
- This way, maybe you’ll discover flow(s) you might have overlooked.

But, as you say, if the device tiles are off / greyed out, a flow doesn’t look like being the cause.  
What do the devices logs say?  
_Longpress a device tile, hit the icon at the bottom right_.

Zwave devices can contol other zwave devices without Homey, but if that happens, the device tiles on Homey should just show their current On Off status…

I think you’d better start over with these zwave devices.  
Reset them to defaults (if possible)  
Remove them from Homey  
Pair them again  
Fix flows manually (there’s a “fix your flows” script, but I’m afraid you also “fix” an error back into your flows.

Also make sure there’s no signal issue.

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