# Z-Wave firmware updates on Homey Pro 2023 **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** z-wave, homey-pro\ **Created:** [May 30, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395 "2023-05-30T16:37:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![happyshow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/happyshow/32/63674_2.png) [@happyshow](https://community.homey.app/u/happyshow)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/1 "2023-05-30T16:37:50Z")
Does the Homey Pro 2023 have a way to install OTA firmware updates to Z-Wave devices like Home Assistant does? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2023, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/2 "2023-05-30T16:45:57Z")
No, afaik there are no brands that support updating Z-Wave or Zigbee Firmware thru Homey Pro. There are a couple of topics here already that discuss: “Why not”, and afaik the situation is not changed: [Search results for 'OTA firmware support' - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/search?q=OTA%20firmware%20support) ---
**Author:** ![RainerMZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@RainerMZ](https://community.homey.app/u/RainerMZ)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/3 "2023-06-21T17:13:57Z")
Hi there, Has anyone tried to update Z-Wave firmwares OTA on a Homey Pro (early 2023) following the instructions provided by fantross (=\> [post](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-gerate-firmware-updates-mit-homey-durchfuhren/77283/1) / unfortunately only in german language) using the Aeotec Z-Stick Gen5+ as a secondary Z-Wave controller to push the the updates OTA to the single devices? ---
**Author:** ![rcaceiro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rcaceiro/32/79267_2.png) [@rcaceiro](https://community.homey.app/u/rcaceiro)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/4 "2024-07-18T07:26:15Z")
Hello @channel please send email to homey requesting this feature I already did but if anyone makes pressure they won’t do it ---
**Author:** ![Henrik\_Johnsson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henrik_johnsson/32/13707_2.png) [@Henrik\_Johnsson](https://community.homey.app/u/Henrik_Johnsson)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2024, 6:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/5 "2024-07-18T18:22:55Z")
I believe Athom sort of explained the situation about Zigbee/Z-Wave firmware updates in one of the live sessions. Personally I don’t see Athom ever implementing this on any broader scale, if at all. Perhaps on one or two brands that they “are in bed with”, but generally I suspect it’s a can of worms Athom rather not open. ---
**Author:** ![happyshow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/happyshow/32/63674_2.png) [@happyshow](https://community.homey.app/u/happyshow)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2024, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/6 "2024-07-19T19:36:11Z")
I gave up wanting this feature and just use HomeAssistant for Z-Wave firmware updates. The process is very easy. ---
**Author:** ![RainerMZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/aca169/32.png) [@RainerMZ](https://community.homey.app/u/RainerMZ)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 10:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/7 "2024-09-22T10:39:10Z")
Hi May I ask how you update fw via HomeAssistant? Do you need to exclude the devices from homey, include in HA, update and re-include in homey? If thatˋs the method, this sound quite cumbersome. ---
**Author:** ![rcaceiro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rcaceiro/32/79267_2.png) [@rcaceiro](https://community.homey.app/u/rcaceiro)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/8 "2024-10-11T08:19:29Z")
Hello, they talked about this on the podcast #3, the app creators can implement this feature, technically there is nothing that prevents it. But manufacturers are very very reluctant to provide those. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/9 "2024-10-11T08:34:23Z")
Yeah, blame the developers 😡 Fact is that nobody knows _how_ to implement this exactly, and Athom themselves provide no information whatsoever on how to do this, so yes, in theory it might be possible, it’s just that there’s no information available about it at all. Not even Athom does this for the apps that they implement themselves, even though they say those apps are “official” (for instance IKEA, and that’s a brand that actually provides information about, and access to, firmware updates for their Zigbee devices, which is why other Zigbee controllers offer OTA updates for those devices). ---
**Author:** ![rcaceiro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rcaceiro/32/79267_2.png) [@rcaceiro](https://community.homey.app/u/rcaceiro)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 9:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/10 "2024-10-11T09:43:15Z")
I think that is possible, however is clearly better to have support to we developers notify homey about updates download the firmware a deliver to the homey update process. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 10:01am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/11 "2024-10-11T10:01:16Z")
This is obviously a chicken/egg situation: Athom says “it’s technically possible, so we don’t have to do anything”, and developers are saying “We have no idea how to implement this, please Athom, give us more information and some examples”. I don’t think Athom will bother implementing this (for _any_ protocol), they care much more about “visible” features like dashboards. ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2024, 10:23am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/12 "2024-10-11T10:23:41Z")
For z-wave it isn’t too too hard to implement, just time consuming creating the code, it is just a lot of commands (4000 is on the low end for a lot of devices) that need to happen in the correct order with the correct handeling of the verification signal send back by the device. With the (current) stability of Homeys z-wave core and handeling of the verification signal I myself would never try to implement it though, 1 wrong or missed (verification) command and you brick the other persons’ device, probably the user blaming it on you even if you let them sign a waver the possibility that it can happen and it not being the developer’s accountability. ---
**Author:** ![rcaceiro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rcaceiro/32/79267_2.png) [@rcaceiro](https://community.homey.app/u/rcaceiro)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 10:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/z-wave-firmware-updates-on-homey-pro-2023/81395/13 "2024-10-12T10:45:32Z")
totally agree