# WHY can we not have "zone has been (in)active for X" as an AND-card?!

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/why-can-we-not-have-zone-has-been-in-active-for-x-as-an-and-card/140540>\
**Category:** Flows\
**Created:** [July 27, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/why-can-we-not-have-zone-has-been-in-active-for-x-as-an-and-card/140540 "2025-07-27T20:33:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tore\_Th](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tore_th/32/120986_2.png) [@Tore\_Th](https://community.homey.app/u/Tore_Th)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 8:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/why-can-we-not-have-zone-has-been-in-active-for-x-as-an-and-card/140540/1 "2025-07-27T20:33:10Z")

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I don’t want it as the trigger, I want it as a qualificator for another trigger. Lets say for example  
WHEN “garage door opened” WAIT “20 min” AND “garage is still open” AND “garage(zone) has been inactive for 5 minutes” THEN “close garage”.

If I use “zone inactive for 5 min” as the trigger, this flow will start almost every 5 minutes 24/7, completely unneccesary - I only want it to start when the garage has been opened..!

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/why-can-we-not-have-zone-has-been-in-active-for-x-as-an-and-card/140540/2 "2025-07-27T21:16:27Z")

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This AND card?

 ![Screenshot_20250727_231534_Chrome](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/2/7/27c6c45a216c712f444441043b5b29aed6b836af.jpeg)

Provided by this app:

> **[Zone Activity](https://homey.app/en-nl/app/nl.erikvl87.zoneactivity/Zone-Activity/)**
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> Enhance your Homey flows by adding conditions based on zone (in)activity.

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> [@Tore\_Th](#):
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> I use “zone inactive for 5 min” as the trigger, this flow will start almost every 5 minutes 24/7, completely unneccesary -

This _ **should** _ only happen when the zone gets activated 24/7 as well.

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**Author:** ![Tore\_Th](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tore_th/32/120986_2.png) [@Tore\_Th](https://community.homey.app/u/Tore_Th)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2025, 9:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/why-can-we-not-have-zone-has-been-in-active-for-x-as-an-and-card/140540/3 "2025-07-27T21:42:19Z")

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Thank you so much for that app suggestion! I cannot fathom why athom does not let us use all conditions any way we want..