# What switch without neutral wire?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [March 21, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356 "2020-03-21T14:48:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![PB2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pb2/32/18966_2.png) [@PB2](https://community.homey.app/u/PB2)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/1 "2020-03-21T14:48:52Z")

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Hi,  
I’m looking for a stabel switch without neutral line that can be operate both via Homekit and physical switch. any recommendation?

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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/2 "2020-03-21T15:01:09Z")

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You can use a Fibaro Dimmer 2 for example.

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You can use the Dimmer also for non dimmable bulbs.

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**Author:** ![PB2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pb2/32/18966_2.png) [@PB2](https://community.homey.app/u/PB2)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/3 "2020-03-21T15:14:04Z")

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> [@Osorkon](#):
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> Fibaro Dimmer 2

will it work both by app and switch on the wall?

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**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/4 "2020-03-21T16:42:13Z")

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This is how smart switches works. 😀

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**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/5 "2020-03-21T19:38:00Z")

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Sunricher also has 2-wire switches and dimmers zigbee and zwave)  
They work well

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**Author:** ![PB2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pb2/32/18966_2.png) [@PB2](https://community.homey.app/u/PB2)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2020, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/6 "2020-03-21T19:56:32Z")

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In Europe they are sold by Robb Smartt? right?

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**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 7:41am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/7 "2020-03-22T07:41:42Z")

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Many shopps sell them using their own brandname.  
Robbshop is indeed one of them

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**Author:** ![PB2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/pb2/32/18966_2.png) [@PB2](https://community.homey.app/u/PB2)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 8:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/8 "2020-03-22T08:04:52Z")

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What do you think about Aqara without neutral? It will work with zigbee down, right?

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**Author:** ![Igy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/igy/32/22144_2.png) [@Igy](https://community.homey.app/u/Igy)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/what-switch-without-neutral-wire/27356/9 "2020-03-23T13:31:12Z")

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Yes, it works standalone without Homey as well. However I had som connection issues with it after power failure - it didnt want to reconnect to Homey.