# Usb powered - pir-motion or tilt sensor **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [May 5, 2024, 8:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349 "2024-05-05T08:06:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/1 "2024-05-05T08:06:52Z")
Hi any recommendations for either pir/motion sensor or tilt sensor that can be usb powered for use inside a mailbox, so it needs to be small in size. already tested this, but it was not recognized as a known/supported device [https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006015204946.html?spm=a2g0o.order\_detail.order\_detail\_item.3.3a09f19cWjZzul](https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006015204946.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.order_detail_item.3.3a09f19cWjZzul) ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/2 "2024-05-05T08:09:00Z")
fe This one? > **[5 in 1 bewegingssensor Z-Wave Plus Neo Coolcam Kopen?](https://www.robbshop.nl/neo-coolcam-bewegingssensor-5-in-1-z-wave-plus)** > > Z-Wave Multisensor✅ Neo Coolcam Kopen?✅ Vandaag Besteld Morgen In Huis✅ For the Tuya Smart ZigBee 3.0 Pir Bewegingssensor Contribute to the [[APP][Pro] Tuya Zigbee App](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-tuya-zigbee-app/26439) to get it supported. but seeing the picture it looks like it is already supported in the Test version [Tuya Zigbee | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/com.tuya.zigbee/Tuya-Zigbee/test/) ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:26am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/3 "2024-05-05T08:26:38Z")
thanks for the tip tested the test version of the app. but the sensor was not identified. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/e/9e400cad842799be54321c04876b89f160434a5e.png) i see multiple other threads now for the same device. looks like it could be supported, but it can also be a rip-off on AliExpress that’s not working. > ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/4 "2024-05-05T08:34:22Z")
The manufacturer ID of yours doesn’t match ID’s in the PR you’re linking to. It doesn’t matter if devices _look_ similar (or even exactly the same) to devices that are supported already, if the ID’s don’t match the device isn’t supported. ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:37am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/5 "2024-05-05T08:37:34Z")
any suggestion for another device? ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 8:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/6 "2024-05-05T08:48:43Z")
At least not a TuYa device, with those you can never be certain that it’s supported. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 9:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/7 "2024-05-05T09:07:49Z")
> [@erlend\_oyen](#): > > already tested this, but it was not recognized as a known/supported device If you are able to perform CLI install, try my fork of Johann’s work ([GitHub - shaarkys/com.tuya.zigbee](https://github.com/shaarkys/com.tuya.zigbee)) and try to install it as “Smart PIR Motion Sensor” CLI install - [[HOW TO] CLI install method](https://community.homey.app/t/how-to-cli-install-method/198) _(after you download ZIP from GitHUB, unpack it and don’t forget to run npm install inside the downloaded and extracted folder)_ > [@erlend\_oyen](#): > > any recommendations for either pir/motion sensor or tilt sensor that can be usb powered Any reason for USB powered device ? Anyway, I implemented Radar sensor ZY-M100-S/L (\_TZE204\_sxm7l9xa) , which is USB powered and also work with my fork but size might be your issue. Link to review of that sensor - [Tuya ZigBee Human Presence Sensor ZY-M100 Review - SmartHomeScene](https://smarthomescene.com/reviews/tuya-zigbee-human-presence-sensor-zy-m100-review/) ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 9:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/8 "2024-05-05T09:32:24Z")
Battery powered devices does not work well in the winter. But a good powerbank have worked for me outdoors in the winter. OK I will look into the fork. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/9 "2024-05-05T15:43:39Z")
There’s few usb powered sensors Aeotec multisensor 6 or 7 can be an idea. It’s a zwave device. Powering by USB is possible [https://aeotec.com/products/aeotec-multi-sensor-7/](https://aeotec.com/products/aeotec-multi-sensor-7/) Only the operating temp is not below 0°C, but the Tuya sensor you picked had the same lower limit btw. [https://aeotec.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/6000246153-multisensor-7-technical-specifications](https://aeotec.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/6000246153-multisensor-7-technical-specifications) It’s supported by the Homey Aeotec app. ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/10 "2024-05-05T16:47:08Z")
thank you, yes i am considering that device as well. also a door and window sensor with usb could also work. i have mostly z-wave devices 70+, and the overall range is also better than zigbee. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/11 "2024-05-05T16:53:23Z")
YW! OK, having a zwave mesh alr is even better. About the 0°C limit: for over 3 years, I have several standard Tuya and Sonoff devices outdoors (protected from water/ moist from above) and in my non-heated shed, all survived several winter days with -18° C as coldest It’s worth to take the “gamble” imho. ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 5:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/12 "2024-05-05T17:04:45Z")
the gamble is getting a device that is actually supported out of the box. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/13 "2024-05-05T17:32:46Z")
Haha, no one knows, but it almost can’t be worse than the Tuya zigbee devices & Homey zigbee combo. ---
**Author:** ![Espen\_H1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/espen_h1/32/80427_2.png) [@Espen\_H1](https://community.homey.app/u/Espen_H1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 10:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/14 "2024-05-09T10:40:19Z")
Hi Erlend, Reg battery: I have two hue outdoor motion sensors outside and one telldus door sensor ( EAN: 7330985151101 ) in an uninsulated shed, and none of them have changed the battery in over a year. They are all with AA batteries. ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 2:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/17 "2024-05-09T14:19:22Z")
hi, ok thank you. i have had various battery powered devices outdoor, but during winter we can have periods where the temp dips down to -25-30 and then most batteries gives up, tested many different brands. but i used a power bank for the tilt sensor for my previous garage door opener, that did work. ---
**Author:** ![Espen\_H1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/espen_h1/32/80427_2.png) [@Espen\_H1](https://community.homey.app/u/Espen_H1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/18 "2024-05-09T15:28:19Z")
Copy that. I am in Drøbak. -20 is the lowest in this area. Powerbanks is probably li-po. You might try a reodor felgen solution with a usb converter from 5v to 3v or whatever your device uses and solder onto the battery terminals. You find them on aliexpress. ---
**Author:** ![erlend\_oyen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/erlend_oyen/32/18133_2.png) [@erlend\_oyen](https://community.homey.app/u/erlend_oyen)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 3:50pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/usb-powered-pir-motion-or-tilt-sensor/109349/19 "2024-05-09T15:50:41Z")
yes i did have to use a usb 5v\>\>\>3v converter for the tilt sensor, soldered to the battery terminals i think i have 1-2 left, from AliExpress