# Upgrade path for the Homey 2019 Pro user? **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Tags:** homey-pro\ **Created:** [December 28, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712 "2024-12-28T15:30:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![provanguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/provanguard/32/34271_2.png) [@provanguard](https://community.homey.app/u/provanguard)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/1 "2024-12-28T15:30:35Z")
Hello Homey, I am a fan of Homey and I have owned the 2019 Pro version for some years now. All is working great with it. The recent releases, e.g. the energy metering device and the software support for it only available in the newer Homey versions make me to consider upgrading. However, it is not all that simple for me. Here are the things which are important for me to have after the upgrade, based on what I am using now and what improvements I would like to have: 1. Straight migration from 2019 to 202x, so that all devices (and flows using them) are migrated without the need to add any of them to the new Homey. I use, in order of priorities: - Z-wave devices from Fibaro and Aeotec (security sensor, power plugs, alarm sirens, buttons) - 433 MHz Somfy sun screens - Several Wifi based communication devices based on custom apps. - Zigbee devices, primarily bulbs 1. Focus on reliable offline mode. Ethernet cable preferred over wifi, but wifi could be a secondary protocol as a failover. 2. I use Heimdall app for security and I rely on voice communication about the status - arming, disarming, user presence. Homey 2019 has a built in speaker, which makes the solution most reliable. I need a solution for voice communication from Heimdall for a newer Homey, which should NOT use wifi or ethernet, and with very low power draw. Ideal would be a Homey with a speaker built in, same like in 2019. Alternatively, a Homey with audio output cable. Thank you in advance for your replies. ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/2 "2024-12-28T15:34:51Z")
> [@provanguard](#): > > 887 MHz Somfy sun screens are you sure? if it is RTS it is probably RF433Mhz If it is anything else then RTS / RF433Mhz you probably use a Tahoma Hub or connection box. Never seen anything om Homey Pro with 868 MHz to work… and certainly not 887 ---
**Author:** ![provanguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/provanguard/32/34271_2.png) [@provanguard](https://community.homey.app/u/provanguard)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/3 "2024-12-28T15:40:57Z")
You are right. I will update my post. I use the “Sunway Window Coverings” app, and I could swear it was showing the 8xx Mhz in the tooltip when hovering on the supported devices, the last time I checked - now it shows 433 MHz. I connect directly from homey to the devices, without any additional hubs. The “Somfy RTS” app shows 433 Mhz, which is the correct frequency. ---
**Author:** ![provanguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/provanguard/32/34271_2.png) [@provanguard](https://community.homey.app/u/provanguard)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/4 "2025-01-09T20:55:42Z")
@Dijker Would you have any comments on the main topic of my post? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/5 "2025-01-10T03:21:37Z")
Hello Provanguard, 1. > [@\[HowTo\] Homey Pro (Early 2023) - Migrating from Homey (Pro) (Early 2016-2019)](https://community.homey.app/t/howto-homey-pro-early-2023-migrating-from-homey-pro-early-2016-2019/77516): > > I see a lot of questions on Slack and here due to mistakes or nor reading. Lets see if we can organize them by topic. I have written a [[HowTo] Homey Backup and Restore - Homey Migration](https://community.homey.app/t/howto-homey-backup-and-restore-homey-migration/25732) before when Backup-Restore came available. Almost everything from the old topic is still true, Add to that: You need a recent successful backup of your other Homey; Not validated, but pretty sure: you can’t migrate back from a Backup if the new Model Homey to a older model Homey! Check all Homey apps on you… 1. > [@provanguard](#): > > Focus on reliable offline mode. No clue what “reliable _offline_ mode” should be. Pull the plug would be very reliable. > [@provanguard](#): > > Ethernet cable preferred over wifi, but wifi could be a secondary protocol as a failover. That’s the default mode when connected to ethernet. Do order an ethernet dongle along with a Pro2023 1. > [@provanguard](#): > > need a solution for voice communication from Heimdall for a newer Homey, which should NOT use wifi or ethernet Speakers and stuff I know use (W)LAN, Bluetooth or cable. AFAIK there’s no Bluetooth speaker interface I also never read about any (USB breakout) audio cable option. ---
**Author:** ![provanguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/provanguard/32/34271_2.png) [@provanguard](https://community.homey.app/u/provanguard)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/6 "2025-01-10T18:51:02Z")
Is there an official documentation about how to migrate, with a list of what does and doesn’t work? The links you provided are to forum posts, with issue reports all over. Apart from the migration, the audio support seems to be a problem. How can it be that the philosophy of Homey is to always work offline, while at the same time getting voice communication from Homey (as part of a security system setup with Heimdall app) requires WIFI connection to external devices, which require separate power supply and operational WIFI network at minimum? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/7 "2025-01-10T19:13:13Z")
It doesn’t hurt to say thanks. > [@provanguard](#): > > Is there an official documentation about how to migrate Yes, just search for ‘migration’ > ![1000041236](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/3/633e84ebc962b80d2c3c2f789bdf1276dd686872.jpeg) The problem with official documentation by Athom: very often all things which can go wrong aren’t mentioned. The exact reason I linked to the post of @Dijker , for you to be prepared what actually _could_ go wrong, reported by real Homey users. > [@provanguard](#): > > The links you provided are to forum posts I shared exactly _ **one** _ link to a very clear post by @Dijker , you appear to not (have) read the complete post: > ![1000041238](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/0/d/0d19ff78331e5f810a2b74d5b38ceec07e0e32f0.jpeg) > [@provanguard](#): > > How can it be that the philosophy of Homey is to always work offline They mean “offline, _without interaction whatsoever_”. (Marketing persons tend to leave out all “cons” and small disclaimers, but you shouldn’t be shocked by this news?) Like, when you have a house full of zigbee/bluetooth/z-wave/433MHz motion sensors, which turn on z-wave/zigbee lights through Homey, it’ll work perfectly fine offline. That’s how you should look at “Homey always works offline” > [@provanguard](#): > > security system setup Homey is a nice gadget, a toy which can work very well when _you_ configure everything right. When you seriously think to use it as security center… I really wouldn’t recommend to use it for (life) critical appliances. It’s just too flaky. My support ends here. Enjoy your Homey 2023 if you decide to purchase one. ---
**Author:** ![provanguard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/provanguard/32/34271_2.png) [@provanguard](https://community.homey.app/u/provanguard)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/8 "2025-01-10T19:43:29Z")
Thank you for your efforts. It is endlessly more than what Athom did - I sent the same message to their contact method and heard nothing back at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sigge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sigge/32/12687_2.png) [@Sigge](https://community.homey.app/u/Sigge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2025, 12:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/upgrade-path-for-the-homey-2019-pro-user/125712/9 "2025-01-11T12:02:07Z")
Just my to cents… I’ve “migrated” dozens of times between versions and different systems, starting with Vera maybe 15 years ago… I’ve been thru Vera, Fibaro, Homey 2019, SmartThings, Homey 2023, Homeseer, IKEA, Hue… I’ve never been able to do any migration that actually worked except restoring a backup on an identical system. From my point of view this is due to the huge variety of “standards”, lacking quality of drivers, constant fiddling by suppliers, lack of firmware updates, bugs and quirks… So since the last few years I do gradual moves, shifting to new systems as they appear and prove themselves. Currently my new main system is Homey 2023, but I still have things on Homeseer and SmartThings. I’ve realized that the only way to use IKEA stuff in a problem free way is to use their gateway as a Matter bridge. I kept my Homey 2019 for quite long in parallel because at the start Homey 2023 was simply to buggy to trust with running some more critical stuff. Good luck!