# Unable to add POPP Smoke Detector with controllable Siren V1.2 (701486) to Homey Pro early 2023

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** z-wave, homey-pro\
**Created:** [June 18, 2023, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552 "2023-06-18T09:46:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/21 "2023-06-20T16:04:36Z")

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> [@Ranney](#):
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> ‘working’ (/responding to an test

Have seen this also, but after several times pressing the ‘Test’, the device became unreachable and I could remove it.

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/22 "2023-06-28T08:05:33Z")

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Update to RC 118 has successfully been performed, but still unable to add POPP Smoke Detectors. I get the same error.

Also no answer from Athom yet (support ticket submitted 19/06/2023). Guess I’ll wait 🙂

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/23 "2023-06-28T15:37:37Z")

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And again a same day reply from POPP Support 👍🏼

> Hi Bas,
> 
> Unfortunately I can confirm this.
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> I have also removed the POPP APP and tried to add the device as a generic device without it. Unfortunately, the same error occurs.
> 
> I will try again contact Homey, so that this is solved as soon as possible.
> 
> Best regards

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/24 "2023-07-04T11:13:46Z")

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RC 122 didn’t fix it either, still waiting for a response from Athom…

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/25 "2023-07-06T19:51:39Z")

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Received a reply from Athom today:

> Hi Bas‍,
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> Thank you for reaching out to our support and for reporting this issue. Our apologies for the inconvenience!
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> This issue has already been reported by other users and Development is working hard to fix this issue. I can’t give any guarantees on when this issue will be found and resolved, but please know that it has been forwarded to our development team and it will be investigated.
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> We hope to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
> 
> Thanks again for your input, we appreciate it!
> 
> Please note there was no fix for this in rc.110 😉  
> Best regards  
> — Athom Support

So if there’s anyone else with this specific problem, keep an eye on the patch notes till it’s fixed

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/26 "2023-07-21T15:35:47Z")

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Unfortunately rc133 doesn’t offer a solution yet.

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/27 "2023-08-20T13:33:09Z")

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10.0.1 and 10.0.2 both don’t work yet… this is getting annoying now

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 7:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/28 "2023-08-29T07:15:33Z")

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Neither does 10.0.3

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**Author:** ![Basov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/basov/32/79096_2.png) [@Basov](https://community.homey.app/u/Basov)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2023, 10:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/29 "2023-08-29T10:17:01Z")

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An interim solution has been provided by POPP that works for me on 10.0.3.

When **starting** the inclusion process, press and hold the button for **3** seconds, instead of the 1 second that is displayed on the Homey app. This will almost immediately add the smoke alarm.

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**Author:** ![Nogdose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/nogdose/32/16576_2.png) [@Nogdose](https://community.homey.app/u/Nogdose)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2023, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/30 "2023-09-11T17:45:41Z")

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In case someone has trouble doing inclusion even when pressing button for 3 seconds, and you had Marco Ruiters app in old Homey like i had, and set up new Homey from backup, then you may need to do exclusion first.

Exclusion instructions in Popp manual [https://manual.zwave.eu/backend/make.php?lang=en&sku=POPE701486](https://manual.zwave.eu/backend/make.php?lang=en&sku=POPE701486) are a bit misleading:

1. press the button on the circuit board once
2. An acoustic tone confirms a successful exclusion.

What seems to be missing is “and keep the button pressed” until sound is heard.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Werckx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/guy_werckx/32/85471_2.png) [@Guy\_Werckx](https://community.homey.app/u/Guy_Werckx)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2024, 11:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/unable-to-add-popp-smoke-detector-with-controllable-siren-v1-2-701486-to-homey-pro-early-2023/82552/31 "2024-05-09T11:06:06Z")

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Thank you very much @Basov for providing this workaround! I was now able to add my POPP device to my Homey Pro (Early 2023).

Details:  
I also recently bought an POPP Smoke Detector POPE701486 (version V1.2). I had the same issue when adding the device to my Homey Pro (Early 2023) with version 11.0.0 (and POPP App version 3.2.9). The Z-wave inclusion failed in the same way as described by @Basov .  
During inclusion pressing 3 seconds instead of the described 1 second made it work.

I have read all the previous messages in this thread, i am surprised that after nearly a year Homey development still was not able to fix this bug… Annoying (i lost quite some time before i found this workaround).

Thank all, great help!

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