# Two owners (eigenaar) in Family

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [November 27, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076 "2020-11-27T19:17:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Wlt3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wlt3r/32/31755_2.png) [@Wlt3r](https://community.homey.app/u/Wlt3r)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/1 "2020-11-27T19:17:08Z")

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Help! For some reason I created two owners in the Family-section

 ![IMG_8448](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/e/7e09795f83cccb04228751e4d4e840ca27ddcff4.jpeg)

I want to delete ‘JB’ as a family member but that is not possible because ‘JB’ is a owner [cannot\_delete\_owner]

It is possible to select another ROLE (something that is not OWNER but manager, user or guest) but it does not change.

Chancing the ownership to other user does not work either.  
I deleted the ‘JB’-account already. It doesn’t exist anymore. But doesn’t help either.

So, how to get rid of two owners???  
Thanks in advance!

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 7:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/2 "2020-11-27T19:42:25Z")

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Welcome to this community,  
WOW! thats strange, that shouldn’t have happened,  
this is something the community probably can’t fix and Athom should be aware of,  
Please report this to Athom support,

> [@Welcome to the forum!](https://community.homey.app/t/welcome-to-the-forum/31/1):
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> When you need direct support from Athom please visit [https://support.athom.com](https://support.athom.com/)for our new help center.
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> - It is very important to report all issues you find here: [https://support.athom.com/hc/requests/new](https://support.athom.com/hc/requests/new)or mail to [support@athom.com](mailto:support@athom.com).

(Edited)

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**Author:** ![Wlt3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wlt3r/32/31755_2.png) [@Wlt3r](https://community.homey.app/u/Wlt3r)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 9:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/3 "2020-11-27T21:29:13Z")

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Check. I will address them.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2020, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/4 "2020-11-27T23:55:06Z")

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I can not help you with an answer unfortunately but this seems a fully legit question to the community here…

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 6:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/5 "2020-11-28T06:46:33Z")

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I don’t think it is, it seems like either a backend issue or an issue with Homey’s core, both of which are not accessible/debuggable to the community.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/6 "2020-11-28T07:31:55Z")

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Probably true, but that doesn’t make the question less legit here in my opinion.

We are here to help each other and I can imagine that a user thinks changing a role is some setting he simply oversees. Or that a user that has had the same problem or knows a workaround, can help.

It’s the guy’s first question here after all… Didn’t we all struggle a bit in the beginning?

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**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 7:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/7 "2020-11-28T07:34:02Z")

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Perhaps you’re interpreting @Dijker’s comment differently than I do 🙂

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 7:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/8 "2020-11-28T07:44:57Z")

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Perhaps… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Wlt3r](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/wlt3r/32/31755_2.png) [@Wlt3r](https://community.homey.app/u/Wlt3r)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 8:06am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/9 "2020-11-28T08:06:35Z")

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Indeed I thought it was a (simple) setting and hoped someone had a similar experience and knew a work around.  
But I learned where to adres my problem and that is one step towards and solution!  
I contacted support@athom and the support staff is reviewing the problem.

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**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 8:32am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/10 "2020-11-28T08:32:22Z")

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> [@Henk\_Renting](#):
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> but this seems a fully legit question to the community here…

Imo it isn’t as it is normally not possible to configure and you can’t change it back. It is a bug Athom should be aware of and fix for this user.  
Once they know Athom can fix firmware and or mobile app to prevent this from occurring again.

So I am not asking how it happend. Most users don’t know anyway and not trying to let @Wlt3r test all things for what I already know that Athom validates and blocks in API s as this is an invalid state and shouldn’t have happened anyway.

That would have been a waste of time for both of us.

FYI I was one of the first with an Homey, am member of the alpha testers program and have reported a number of issues like this that I Tested, described an reported to Athom to get bug fixes and validated that these kind of bugs where really fixed (or not yet)

Thanks anyway I will try to make my msg more clear.

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**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-owners-eigenaar-in-family/38076/12 "2020-11-28T10:52:25Z")

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I never doubted your good intentions, @Dijker! Not here and not in your other posts here in the community! 🙂

I just wanted to point out that such a question here should be legit (=“legitiem”; reasonable, allowed)  
in Dutch). Perhaps it all comes down to the meaning of the word then. 😉  
The edit of your first post makes it all more clear.

Keep up the great work here, as always highly appreciated!
