# Two homey in the same house?

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Tags:** app\
**Created:** [November 3, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221 "2021-11-03T15:46:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/1 "2021-11-03T15:46:18Z")

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Hello! I have a homey pro today! but I see it starts to run out of storage and memory, had to delete some apps today to get backup … what is it like to have two homey in the same house? do I have to log in and out of the app when I go into one of them?

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/2 "2021-11-03T15:49:30Z")

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> [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](#):
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> what is it like to have two homey in the same house?

Ur first Homey will love it! Not alone anymore and someone to talk to (HTTP or MQTT) .

> [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](#):
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> do I have to log in and out of the app when I go into one of them?

Nope. They can be on just 1 account so just choose another Homey in ur app.

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/3 "2021-11-03T15:55:37Z")

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nice😊 how is this set up? log in with the same email without backup?

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 3:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/4 "2021-11-03T15:59:07Z")

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Same email, with or without back-up. Back-up is for 3 devices.

“You can make a backup of up to 3 Homeys at the same time. You can manage your backups under My Backups on the Homey website.”

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/5 "2021-11-03T16:30:27Z")

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My two homey talk to each other via MQTT. This works very well and without increasing the latency. It is not a problem if Homey 1 detects a movement that Homey 2 triggers the action.  
It is even still a Home Assistant in the MQTT network. All 3 bridges can see each other and execute commands among themselves.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/6 "2021-11-03T16:53:50Z")

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Just curious of how many apps you run when it runs out of memory?  
I can run over 30 apps on a 512MB Pro.  
Are you sure it is a 1024MB Pro you bought?

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/7 "2021-11-03T17:06:08Z")

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I run 51 apps and 286 flows😂son flows are inactive and maybe could be deleted, but I have saved them for later. The image is after I deleted some apps and got the backup through.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/5/65353ed2e06c338491d91d14d238cec757a23dbc.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/8 "2021-11-03T17:18:27Z")

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Ah okay then. The # of flows is not an issue related to the memory afaik. I’ve over 500 on my 512MB Pro.  
Have a look here 😁 :

> [@How much can a 512MB Pro handle!](https://community.homey.app/t/how-much-can-a-512mb-pro-handle/49687):
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> I’d like to experiment and search for boundaries. At the moment my Homey Pro (512MB RAM - singlecore) uses 640MB’s, and has -130MB's of free memory thinkingcrazy_face It runs 41 apps / 259 devices / 504 flows. But now I’m starting to notice it responds slower at sensors and switching lights. I was told b/c the -130MB's free memory are being swapped to ssd storage. Since ssd has a certain amount of writes limit, it’s probably not a good idea in terms of life time. But it’s fun to test…

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**Author:** ![Raz\_Tovy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/raz_tovy/32/14147_2.png) [@Raz\_Tovy](https://community.homey.app/u/Raz_Tovy)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/9 "2021-11-05T21:57:41Z")

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> [@Undertaker](#):
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> MQTT

how did you do that?  
Can you refer me to some online guide that explains the process With MQTT?

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/10 "2021-11-06T04:56:07Z")

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You need 3 apps.

MQTT Broker (Server) - install on one homey  
MQTT Client - install on both homeys  
MQTT Hub - install on both homeys

Config Broker:

 ![Screenshot_20211106-054537_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/6/660a45aef5cfe875bfec0ad7c3c641b70d756ac6.jpeg)

Config Clients:

 ![Screenshot_20211106-055024_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/6/3/63c36ef82f11266ad4ac4389df664f38d859b6cc.jpeg)

Config Hub:

 ![Screenshot_20211106-055410_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/b/5be4c0965a499ea0ed1f50fdba7e07a1de2c6aac.jpeg)

Instructions:

 ![Screenshot_20211106-055259_Homey](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/9/d926152fff55761e2464264d82fbd12a22664ef7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Zimo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/zimo/32/16621_2.png) [@Zimo](https://community.homey.app/u/Zimo)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/11 "2021-12-21T18:09:20Z")

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Actually you do not need to have another broker running on your Homey - you may connect MQTT client to your existing mosqitto (just screenshot 2 - with IP of your broker and 3 and 4)…

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/12 "2021-12-21T18:59:53Z")

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But it does say install broker on ONE of the Homey’s 😉

> [@Undertaker](#):
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> MQTT Broker (Server) - install on one homey

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/13 "2021-12-21T19:59:41Z")

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> [@Peter\_Kawa](#):
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> But it does say install broker on ONE of the Homey’s 😉

Obviously a broker is required somewhere … which is the reason for your wink about mosquito I assume as it contradicts.

The internal Homey MQTT Broker App should be avoided if possible. Use an external broker like mosquito if you can, I know it’s another box. If you are using HomeAssistant as well then you can use the HA broker.

Retention of payloads is not supported by the Homey broker and is important, particularly if any of the clients disconnect or restart as they then are unable to synch the status from the broker

There is a workaround where you can force MQTT hub to resend all the status information again but that is fairly processor intensive.

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/14 "2022-01-26T18:51:00Z")

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Now I have gone to purchase a homey to😆 if I run mqtt broker on the old and client on the new, and not runs backup on the new … can I then add flows to script in client homey? does it run both ways? or is it only the homey broker who should have all the flows and script? now the homey broker starts to get full and freezes occasionally. I would like to distribute the tasks on each of the homeys. Is that possible?

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/15 "2022-01-26T19:20:34Z")

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I no longer have two Homeys. Due to the trouble with the Conbee Stick, I got rid of a Homey and switched to Home Assistant. Unfortunately I can’t help anymore.

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/16 "2022-01-26T19:33:07Z")

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Ok HA is better? Isn’t it much scripting?

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/17 "2022-01-26T19:36:39Z")

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[Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima) Do you know if it’s possible?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2022, 10:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/18 "2022-01-26T22:51:34Z")

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> [@Two homey in the same house?](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/10):
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> You need 3 apps. MQTT Broker (Server) - install on one homey MQTT Client - install on both homeys MQTT Hub - install on both homeys Config Broker: Config Clients: Config Hub: Instructions:

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**Author:** ![Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tor_erling_julusmoen/32/46747_2.png) [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](https://community.homey.app/u/Tor_Erling_Julusmoen)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/19 "2022-01-31T17:22:37Z")

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I think you misunderstood my question… Is it possible to make a backup from my old homey to my new homey and then have the same units on they both? Or only one homey with all units and flows and script? No backup on the client from broker homey?

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**Author:** ![Undertaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/undertaker/32/53278_2.png) [@Undertaker](https://community.homey.app/u/Undertaker)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/two-homey-in-the-same-house/54221/20 "2022-01-31T17:33:13Z")

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> [@Tor\_Erling\_Julusmoen](#):
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> and then have the same units on they both?

No, this is not possible. The devices can only register with one of the two Homeys. You can reduce the load on the Homey if you distribute the tasks.

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