# Turn light off?
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916
**Category:** Questions & Help
**Tags:** advancedflow
**Created:** [October 5, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916 "2022-10-05T16:22:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 8
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### Author:  [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 4:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/1 "2022-10-05T16:22:17Z")
Hi
I am completely novice to Homey flows. I am making an advanced flow for my outside light but I can’t figure out how to close light after 10 minutes?
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### Author:  [@WimS](https://community.homey.app/u/WimS)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/2 "2022-10-05T16:51:00Z")
In the same section where you find IF, AND and THEN, you’ll find also a START, WAIT, ALL and ANY card that you can ad to your flow. Look for that WAIT card.
Look for more info at the Athom Homey video’s on Youtube ( [Athom Homey - Advanced Flow - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8LBou635Gs) )
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### Author:  [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/3 "2022-10-05T18:05:23Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdvPs9Jd8Ts)
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)
#### Post date: [October 5, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/4 "2022-10-05T22:29:08Z")
Figuring out yourself (with some help from here) is the best learning method imho, and it takes a while to ‘get it’.
But, to get the hang of it, you can import (and export) (basic) flows as well, like a motion and lux driven light. This is a very recent added functionality!
It works when you install [Device Capabilities App for Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/a/nl.qluster-it.DeviceCapabilities/)
> [@The Flow Exchange(r) - Exchange Your Flows with Others!](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981):
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> If you have questions about the App Device Capabilities or seek help with an Flow or with the Flow Exchanger, please see the [Device Capabilities Topic](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287). [German](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-helfen-und-fragen-stellen/69807)[Another German topic](https://community.homey.app/t/device-capabilities/67934)[English](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287) If you have questions about the Advanced Virtual Device or seek help with the Exchanger File, please see the [Advanced Virtual Devices Topic](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-addendum-fully-customisable-advanced-virtual-device-with-unique-text-status-indicator/68198). [German](https://community.homey.app/t/teilen-sie-ihr-gerat-erweiterte-virtuelle-gerate-aus-den-geratefahigkeiten/69583)[English](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-addendum-fully-customisable-advanced-virtual-device-with-unique-text-status-indicator/68198) If you want to post a AVD as a Template for others to use, please post it on [Share Your Device! - Advanced Virtual Devices](https://community.homey.app/t/share-your-device-advanced-virtual-devices-from-device-capabilities/68676). [German](https://community.homey.app/t/teilen-sie-ihr-gerat-erweiterte-virtuelle-gerate-aus-den-geratefahigkeiten/69583)[English](https://community.homey.app/t/share-your-device-advanced-virtual-devices-from-device-capabilities/68676)[Eng…](https://community.homey.app/t/share-your-device-hcs-edition-advanced-virtual-devices-from-device-capabilities/69558)
> [@Share Your Device! - Advanced Virtual Devices from Device Capabilities](https://community.homey.app/t/share-your-device-advanced-virtual-devices-from-device-capabilities/68676):
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> If you have questions about the App Device Capabilities or seek help with an Flow or with the Flow Exchanger, please see the [Device Capabilities Topic](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287). [German](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-helfen-und-fragen-stellen/69807)[Another German topic](https://community.homey.app/t/device-capabilities/67934)[English](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-enhance-the-capabilities-of-devices/43287) If you have questions about the Advanced Virtual Device or seek help with the Exchanger File, please see the [Advanced Virtual Devices Topic](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-addendum-fully-customisable-advanced-virtual-device-with-unique-text-status-indicator/68198). [German](https://community.homey.app/t/teilen-sie-ihr-gerat-erweiterte-virtuelle-gerate-aus-den-geratefahigkeiten/69583)[English](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-device-capabilities-addendum-fully-customisable-advanced-virtual-device-with-unique-text-status-indicator/68198) If you want to post a AVD as a Template for others to use, please post it on [Share Your Device! - Advanced Virtual Devices](https://community.homey.app/t/share-your-device-advanced-virtual-devices-from-device-capabilities/68676). This topic! [Germa…](https://community.homey.app/t/teilen-sie-ihr-gerat-erweiterte-virtuelle-gerate-aus-den-geratefahigkeiten/69583)
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### Author:  [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)
#### Post date: [October 6, 2022, 5:31am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/5 "2022-10-06T05:31:08Z")
Indeed, you might have use have a few Templates that you can import:
- [Motion activated Light/Device, off after a certain time of no motion](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981/24)
**Very simpel flow with the basic off what you want, i just created it for you.**
- [Motion activated Light/Device with Lux condition](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981/6)
Same, but with a lux condition (only goes on when it is dark out there).
You can select these templates directly in the Device Capabilities App → App Settings → Templates.
[How to use the Templates of The Flow Exchange?](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981/2)
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### Author:  [@Matsaki](https://community.homey.app/u/Matsaki)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2022, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/6 "2022-10-07T13:08:27Z")
I have a problem closing the lights.
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### Author:  [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)
#### Post date: [October 7, 2022, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/7 "2022-10-07T13:22:44Z")
This should work:
_This flow triggers a light when a motion sensor triggers, or a person enters the home location. With both events, the light turns off after 5 minutes, IF there’s no motion detected in the mean time_
You can import it right away.
Open Device Capabilities settings
Hit ‘Templates’
Hit “AF Motion and presence activated Light/Device with Sunset condition”
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Or use this (how to is in post #1 of the topic below)
> [@The Flow Exchange(r) - Exchange Your Flows with Others!](https://community.homey.app/t/the-flow-exchange-r-exchange-your-flows-with-others/68981/26):
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> Motion and Presence activated Light/Device with Sunset condition This flow triggers a light when a motion sensor triggers, or a person enters the home location. With both events, the light turns off after 5 minutes, IF there’s no motion detected in the mean time. Apps used: [Chronograph](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.fellownet.chronograph) TEF: [TEF:FLOWS:H4sIAAAAAAACA7VWy24jNxD8FYFn94bvh67JIYfNaXNbGEaTbFoDSCNhNPbGMPzv6RlJgZ/YQeIcpBE5ZLO6q6qpR1HF+lH45Jpp0YHzSGBDkoA+e3C5lOgMVaPstK4Xa/EVd4fV77gV…
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### Author:  [@Homey2](https://community.homey.app/u/Homey2)
#### Post date: [November 13, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/turn-light-off/69916/8 "2022-11-13T13:46:39Z")
If you do not mind, I post below an alternative using the built-in timers of Homey. Many ways lead to Rome.
The benefit is easy maintenance:
1. Add/Replace a motion sensor to a zone
2. Add/Replace lamps to a zone
3. No need for a special stopwatch/countdown
Downside:
One virtual device (motion trigger) required 🥲
Virtual Devices are extremely useful.
