# Tuo devices supported out of the box using Thread and Matter?
**URL:** https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836
**Category:** Devices
**Tags:** homey-pro, homey-pro-2023, matter
**Created:** [September 20, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836 "2023-09-20T19:56:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 13
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### Author:  [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/1 "2023-09-20T19:56:30Z")
Hello,
I do not know if anybody stumbled over [Tuo](https://findtuo.com/)?
It seems to be an american company from New York. What it makes interesting for me is that they offer a smart button, contact sensor, and smart lock leveraging the Thread protocoll and Matter.
I am aware that Homey Pro 23 does not have Thread support yet, but I wonder if such devices will be working out-of-the-box with Homey when full Thread/Matter support is available?
How would this work then?
Best regards
Marco
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### Author:  [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)
#### Post date: [September 20, 2023, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/2 "2023-09-20T20:02:53Z")
> [@Jumpingtrees](#):
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> I am aware that Homey Pro 23 does not have Thread support yet, but I wonder if such devices will be working out-of-the-box with Homey when full Thread/Matter support is available?
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> How would this work then?
For what it Matters: [https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/9075551662108-Matter-Beta-for-Homey-Pro-Early-2023-](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/9075551662108-Matter-Beta-for-Homey-Pro-Early-2023-)
> Apps
> Homey Apps do not support Matter yet. Therefore it is not necessary to install any app before a Matter device is paired, just follow the instructions in the next paragraph. Homey Apps with support for Matter will be available in the future.
But as it depends on the future…
I have no idea…
the Crystal ball magic sphere future fortune prediction didn’t work on Athoms Development process
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### Author:  [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)
#### Post date: [September 22, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/3 "2023-09-22T10:09:44Z")
Sorry, but I found your answer a bit rude. As a user with a strong interest in this topic, but not a technical expert I find it a fair question to ask if a arbritary device that supports Thread and Matter will work out-of-the-box with Homey (no app required).
If I understand the linked and other articles correctly; I would say yes. That is my understanding of the general vision of Thread and Matter, but is this also how Homey plans to implement it?
If there is at some point (experimental) support for Thread then I would order the linked device and are very open to share my experience here. Let’s wait for the (experimental) support of Thread in conjunction with Matter for Homey to move away from the guessing game. 🙂
BR
Marco
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### Author:  [@Tony\_Deane\_UK](https://community.homey.app/u/Tony_Deane_UK)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2024, 5:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/4 "2024-01-15T05:28:56Z")
Hi Marco - Ref your previous Post - Sept 2023.
The TUO Smart Button “Matter Over Thread” is Mentioned in the Post below by - Geurt Dijker.
I am not sure if that means that it - Definitely Works on Thread
Or if it MAY work on Thread. ?
> [@\[LIST\] Does it Matter and Work over Thread](https://community.homey.app/t/list-does-it-matter-and-work-over-thread/99378):
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> Although Homey has Matter still in Beta and Thread isn’t released yet, I am curious what device are already available and talking Matter and over Thread? (For others over IP, see here: [[LIST] Does it Matter and Work over IP (NOT Thread)](https://community.homey.app/t/list-does-it-matter-and-work-over-ip-not-thread/99407) ) These are Devices we probably wil not see an App for in the Homey Appstore but might be interesting for the Gadget hungry with us. Athom’s Info what Matter and Thread is: [What is Matter? | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/what-is-matter/) and Current implementation status of Matter/ Thread in Homey …
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### Author:  [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/5 "2024-01-15T19:45:39Z")
Thanks for highlighting the post! Very interesting. I wasn’t aware that Nanoleaf is also starting to offer Matter over Thread devices.
Anyhow, it seems that at the moment a lot of Thread endpoint devices like buttons are being released or getting Thread over Matter support. As I need to cover some space I am in the need of a bunch of Thread routers first like plugs (a learning from adding Zigbee devices). I am hoping that in the near future flush-mounted socket outlets that support Matter over Thread will be released. Until then I will more or less need to pause my Matter over Thread adventure. ☹
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### Author:  [@Tony\_Deane\_UK](https://community.homey.app/u/Tony_Deane_UK)
#### Post date: [January 15, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/6 "2024-01-15T23:32:30Z")
ONVIS - now marketing the - Onvis S4
“Matter over Thread” Smart Plug - which also acts as border router - REPEATER
£17.00 – UK Plug – [URL - AMAZON UK - B0CHRDZCGP](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Onvis-SmartThings-Automate-Appliances-Responsive/dp/B0CHRDZCGP)
$17.26 – UK Plug – [URL - ONVIS - Manufacturers Home Page](https://onvishome.com/collections/smart-plug/products/onvis-smart-plug-s4uk-matter-over-thread?variant=43317238005950)
- Onvis Loads for me as UK Price, but may change if you are in another Country
CSA - Connectivity Standards Association - See Below
CSA - Confirm that the ONVIS S4 Plug - is also a Border Router Which Extends Your Thread Network
> **[Onvis Smart Plug S4](https://csa-iot.org/csa_product/onvis-smart-plug-s4/)**
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> Onvis S4 is a Matter over Thread smart plug.
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### Author:  [@Jumpingtrees](https://community.homey.app/u/Jumpingtrees)
#### Post date: [January 16, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/7 "2024-01-16T06:42:01Z")
Thanks! I wasn’t aware of this product. 🙂
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### Author:  [@Tim\_Howard](https://community.homey.app/u/Tim_Howard)
#### Post date: [April 21, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/8 "2024-04-21T23:47:35Z")
I have the Tuo Contact Sensor connected to Homey Pro and it connects and works fine. It does seem to have a little less range than the Aqara P2 Contact Sensor. I tried to use it on my mailbox and it would not work at that distance but the Aqara did. I now have the Tuo on an interior door and it works fine.
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### Author:  [@Russell\_Ebbing](https://community.homey.app/u/Russell_Ebbing)
#### Post date: [May 29, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/9 "2024-05-29T00:38:41Z")
I was able to add the Tuo button with no problem. The Honey Pro app sats “all is good” and invites me to write flows. I created a very simple flow that listens to the button press and sends notification. The flow works when I test it but this is not triggered by the button. Am I missing something?
Holey Pro v11.1.0
iOS v17.5.1
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### Author:  [@Tim\_Howard](https://community.homey.app/u/Tim_Howard)
#### Post date: [June 4, 2024, 6:38am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/10 "2024-06-04T06:38:53Z")
Follow-up
Battery status is not showing in Homey. I have talked with both Homey and Tuo support but no resolution. Probably a software issue that needs to be addressed.
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### Author:  [@Henk\_Bartels](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Bartels)
#### Post date: [June 21, 2024, 2:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/11 "2024-06-21T14:26:36Z")
Hello Russel,
Can you tell me how you connected the TUO Smart Button to Homey??
I have 2 of them, but they don’t connect to Homey. Even the Homey Support Guys can’t solve it…
Thank you,
Henk
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### Author:  [@Russell\_Ebbing](https://community.homey.app/u/Russell_Ebbing)
#### Post date: [June 30, 2024, 3:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/12 "2024-06-30T03:35:13Z")
I have not been able to get the button to work. Pairing is very easy and it says all is good, but no flows are triggered by the button. I really like the button and keep thinking that after some update it will start working. I just tried it again and it did not work. I have since moved on to the Third Reality button which I go5 working right away.
One thing I was going to try was turning on IPv6 on my WiFi because this what another person said because this what Matter uses but I don’t think this will do anything. Seems this might work for Matter over WiFi, not Matter over Thread. I’d think mater over Thread is entirely on Homey Pro, not WiFi. If But before doing that I first need to know what happen to all the things connected via IPv4. I think all things will still work but may require @ reboot to connect?
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### Author:  [@Russell\_Ebbing](https://community.homey.app/u/Russell_Ebbing)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2026, 8:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/tuo-devices-supported-out-of-the-box-using-thread-and-matter/89836/13 "2026-01-02T20:22:40Z")
Tuo button works
I finally got around to building up a Matter/Thread mesh and now the button connects
For a battery powered Mater/Thread device to connect there has to be at least one plug-in powered Matter/Thread router near by. Meaning at least one wall switch, smart plug, any plugged in thread device. The more thread router devices the more stable the mesh becomes. The button (or any battery only powered device) will not connect to Homey directly like zigbee or z-wave.