# Thread network question **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [June 10, 2026, 6:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976 "2026-06-10T06:05:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jocke\_Wallen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jocke_wallen/32/76525_2.png) [@Jocke\_Wallen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jocke_Wallen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/1 "2026-06-10T06:05:43Z")
I realized that two of my IKEA “GRILLPLATS” plugs are not on same Thread network as other Matter devices. Other devices has ended up on “Homey Pro” network whilst the two “GRILLPLATS” are on “Google-2B8F”. I’ve tried many times to remove these and re-add both via QR-code and PIN but these two always end up on Google network… So my question: Does this matter (no pun intended! 😉 ) in any way? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/b/a/ba4df8fa5835e8ae0985c6ea4e653250bd34c97e.png) ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 8:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/2 "2026-06-10T08:43:42Z")
I’m guessing that at some point you added a Thread device to the Google Thread Border Router using your Android smartphone, and that it’s now set as the default border router on your smartphone. Or you used different smartphones. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/3/d/3d558b1f00f2565c7268af24df758a6aca6efc4a.png) ([Source](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/12010766903580-Thread-for-Homey-Pro-and-Homey-Pro-mini)) ---
**Author:** ![Jocke\_Wallen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jocke_wallen/32/76525_2.png) [@Jocke\_Wallen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jocke_Wallen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 9:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/3 "2026-06-10T09:11:08Z")
OK, thanks, that might be the reason even though I never installed any Matter devices earlier. Strange that some devices are installed on Homey but few seems to prefer Googles Thread. Are any downsides of having devices on two Thread networks simultaniosly? Or do they “co-operate” via Threads protol regardless of network? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 9:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/4 "2026-06-10T09:16:01Z")
I’m just a beginner when it comes to Matter and Thread, but in my opinion, there shouldn’t be any issues with using multiple Thread networks, since the devices can communicate with each other via the Matter protocol. Matter is the communication protocol. Thread is the network environment. ---
**Author:** ![JMDPC](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jmdpc/32/121098_2.png) [@JMDPC](https://community.homey.app/u/JMDPC)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/5 "2026-06-10T14:16:46Z")
It does cause issues if you have multiple thread networks. At least it did for me. Once I merged my two together (Apple Home and Aqara) things worked better ---
**Author:** ![Gerritv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gerritv/32/121892_2.png) [@Gerritv](https://community.homey.app/u/Gerritv)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/6 "2026-06-10T14:35:41Z")
Also a beginner on Thread/Matter. my understanding is that the Homey companion app uses whatever Thread credentials are on the Android phone. (according to ChatGPT searches). So this seems to point to using a different phone for that device? It is not clear (to me) if this thred credential is shared to your other Android devices. I do know that there is only the nuclear option of a phone reset to get rid of a stored one. (I am still persuing an OTBR in docker with no other Border Router on the network for Homey-SHS. I will have to commission once using Home Assistant to get the credentials onto the phone) ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/7 "2026-06-10T15:02:36Z")
I ran a Homey and Apple Home thread network in parallel for a few days, and it worked without any issues. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/8 "2026-06-10T15:03:30Z")
OK, Android phones lock on the first Thread border router you connect a device to \> There’s not “something in there somehow” already.. > [@Homey Pro 2026 first thread installation](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-2026-first-thread-installation/150282/2): > > Use my.homey.app to add Matter-over-Thread devices, because it will solely use Homey’s TBR > > Nice to read: > [https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/12934291420060-Connecting-a-Matter-or-Thread-Device](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/12934291420060-Connecting-a-Matter-or-Thread-Device) ### To work around Android’s default TBR lock: > [@Homey Pro 2026 first thread installation](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-2026-first-thread-installation/150282/2): > > A. > > - Get a factory resetted (old) phone to add Matter-over-Thread devices to Homey > or > - Use my.homey.app ### To reset Android’s first selected TBR lock: > [@Homey Pro 2026 first thread installation](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-2026-first-thread-installation/150282/2): > > B. > > - Remove the google home app > - Clear cache, and all data for Google Play Services > - Power off the Google Nest Hub device & wait for 5 mins > - In the Homey app, go to Settings \> Thread and let it sync - allow network access when requested; > google TBR (or other TBR) should have vanished This is a confirmed fix: > [@Homey Pro 2026 first thread installation](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-2026-first-thread-installation/150282/3): > > solution B. worked like a charm ---
**Author:** ![Jocke\_Wallen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jocke_wallen/32/76525_2.png) [@Jocke\_Wallen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jocke_Wallen)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/9 "2026-06-10T18:18:54Z")
Ok, ty for feedback and ideas! I’m gonna try with a fresh phone without Google Home and see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![Mariomark1541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mariomark1541/32/178160_2.png) [@Mariomark1541](https://community.homey.app/u/Mariomark1541)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/10 "2026-06-10T18:56:08Z")
@DirkG would you like to read and maybe answer my questions in my post ? > [@Question about Matter ( connected via Apple Homepod)](https://community.homey.app/t/question-about-matter-connected-via-apple-homepod/155924/6): > > Okay ---
**Author:** ![Jocke\_Wallen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jocke_wallen/32/76525_2.png) [@Jocke\_Wallen](https://community.homey.app/u/Jocke_Wallen)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/11 "2026-06-11T10:47:40Z")
THANKS! Solution ‘B’ did the trick! THANKS! I took my old phone, did factory reset, and only installed & configured Homey. It took a couple of tries but all the sudden it worked just fine! ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/7/f/7f28fc5a6cb4197d78c81270b039e66e908ba6ce.png) So now all Matter devices are on “Homey Pro” network. Gonna keep my spare-phone as “Matter configurator device” for now… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2026, 3:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/thread-network-question/155976/12 "2026-06-11T15:06:53Z")
Done