# The new Homey Pro — Ask Me Anything **URL:** \ **Category:** Official Announcements\ **Tags:** homey-pro, homey-pro-2023\ **Created:** [October 13, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378 "2022-10-13T12:11:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mroek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mroek/32/38044_2.png) [@mroek](https://community.homey.app/u/mroek)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/57 "2022-10-14T08:18:03Z")
I agree with the others here who have voiced their opinion on releasing this new Homey without a migration path from the old one. I can’t fathom how you even thought that was a good idea if you want your existing customers to upgrade to the new Pro. People have LOTS of devices, and many are in locations that are pretty inaccessible, so to “start over” with re-pairing everything is clearly a no-go. And the same holds true for flows. Countless hours have been spent creating elaborate flows, and recreating all manually is just too painstaking. The lack of support for apps on SDK2 is also really painful, even if I do understand that it is undesirable to support the old SDK indefinitely. Some work needs to go down to try to ease this problem. Is there an easy way to get a list of apps on a Homey Pro that is using SDK2? ---
**Author:** ![Chris\_nl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/chris_nl/32/27194_2.png) [@Chris\_nl](https://community.homey.app/u/Chris_nl)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:20am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/58 "2022-10-14T08:20:33Z")
> [@\[Homey Pro (Early 2023)\] App unsupported list](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324/27): > > To keep this app working for (older) Homey Pro’s will make it that a new app will have to be written as the permission for speaker output is still needed there, currently not possible to work around this I believe. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/59 "2022-10-14T08:47:21Z")
> [@mroek](#): > > Is there an easy way to get a list of apps on a Homey Pro that is using SDK2? > [@\[Homey Pro (Early 2023)\] App unsupported list](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-app-unsupported-list/70324): > > Homey Pro (early 2023) App unsupported list The Homey Pro (early 2023) is based on a Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4, and works in a several ways different from the older Homey Pro’s (early 2016 - early 2019). And also the SDKv3 running on it is pretty different from the older Homey Pro’s. This will cause that even some apps that are using SDKv3 are not (fully) working properly yet. But the biggest difference is the missing of several key features that are still running on the older Homey Pro’s… ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/60 "2022-10-14T08:51:05Z")
Many users demand a migration. Only then they are willing to buy a new Homey Pro. But is a complete migration including devices technically possible at all? For some device groups (e.g. WiFi) it might be possible, but I don’t know of any Z-Wave gateway where the Z-Wave devices can be migrated without exclusion/inclusion. But I’m not an expert. @Caseda, do you know if a migration of Z-Wave devices is technically possible? ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 8:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/61 "2022-10-14T08:59:46Z")
I just want to add my 2c around prioritising a migration path to upgrade, I have a bucket load of devices and going into the walls to reset the devices isnt really an option in Australia - as it requires an qualified electrician. In regards to the AMA : As an subject matter expert I am interested in hearing your thoughts around Matter. 1. What impact do you see this happening on the base number of devices which will be supported by homey. 2. How much functionality do you think will be shared on the matter platform, can we expect platform agnostic provides to be fairly free with it? (ie. Fibaro, Hue) 3. What about the platform providers, just how basic is the matter support for Amazon and Google devices going to be? 4. Is there a plan to add local voice activation to Alexa via matter and if so which quarter? 5. There was talk in the keynotes around being local, can we confirm that authentication/authorization will no longer require an active internet connection and the Homey can be ran off-grid? 6. How will the Pro2 work when connected via both Ethernet and Wifi? 7. What other matter based features are going to be possible? 8. SDK2 has been deprecated for a while now, however there really hasn’t been a reason to upgrade it, I have several apps which need to be upgraded - and only 10 weeks to do it in (along with a full time job and a 6 week overseas trip). I understand there may be strong reasons for dropping support for sdk2 for Pro2, however is there any chance that this deadline will be extended (at least for Pro1) . ---
**Author:** ![Eric\_Richters](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/eric_richters/32/49523_2.png) [@Eric\_Richters](https://community.homey.app/u/Eric_Richters)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/62 "2022-10-14T09:09:43Z")
I need migration from my old homey to the new homey, otherwise upgrading makes no sense to me. It is way too much work. So I fully agree that an easy upgrade wizard that transfers the complete state of the old homey to the new homey should be available at launch. My main questions: Do you plan to develop a tool that transfers old homeys current state to the new one? If not, what can be transferred and what can’t? When will the upgrade tool be available - I think you owe it to your customers to be clear about it from the start. How many zigbee devices are supported? ---
**Author:** ![KvM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/kvm/32/6707_2.png) [@KvM](https://community.homey.app/u/KvM)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:17am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/63 "2022-10-14T09:17:11Z")
Q: How many Zigbee devices will the new chip support? ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/64 "2022-10-14T09:24:24Z")
> [@DirkG](#): > > But is a complete migration including devices technically possible at all? I am no expert at all, but shouldn’t that be the same as restoring a backup from one Homey Pro to another? In terms of devices only, I mean. I understand of course that the hardware that the Homey software runs on is different, so you can’t restore an actual Homey Pro backup to a Pro 2023. Have done so before when my Homey Pro was broken and replaced for another. That worked flawlessly. Was very thankful I have a backup subscription then…! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CorvanderNiet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/corvanderniet/32/11702_2.png) [@CorvanderNiet](https://community.homey.app/u/CorvanderNiet)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:34am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/65 "2022-10-14T09:34:25Z")
Q: Will the Google Chromecast app be made compatible in time? ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/66 "2022-10-14T09:52:11Z")
> [@DirkG](#): > > @Caseda, do you know if a migration of Z-Wave devices is technically possible? Only if Athom implements it in their own migration, we don’t have access directly to the Z-Wave chip’s memory. The same for ZigBee. ---
**Author:** ![Anders\_Gregow](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/anders_gregow/32/61721_2.png) [@Anders\_Gregow](https://community.homey.app/u/Anders_Gregow)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:08am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/67 "2022-10-14T10:08:24Z")
> [@Caseda](#): > > Only if Athom implements it in their own migration, we don’t have access directly to the Z-Wave chip’s memory. > The same for ZigBee. But it work when buying a new Homey Pro (2019), you just do a restore of the backup. Shouldn’t that be possible for Homey Pro (2023) or is the differens in HW (z-wave/zigbee chip) causing problem? ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 10:18am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/68 "2022-10-14T10:18:36Z")
Currently it isn’t possible, though Athom did say that the amount of “complaints” did make them reconsider to implement a migration path. So it might happen, but it might also not happen, maybe just a bit sooner after early access release then initially was planned. As the software isn’t finished yet for Homey Pro (early 2023) either, it can also happen that issues might arrise because of that. Might also just delay the release of Homey Pro (early 2023) if they do want to make the migration stable. ---
**Author:** ![Phuturist](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/phuturist/32/49_2.png) [@Phuturist](https://community.homey.app/u/Phuturist)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 11:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/71 "2022-10-14T11:45:26Z")
Q: will I be able to continu to develop my (verified partner) SDK3 apps on my Homey Early 2016 or does this require the new Homey Pro? ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/72 "2022-10-14T21:15:49Z")
> [@Hannes85](#): > > Q: any way we can get back the custom led ring as we’re used to on our earlier Homey’s? [[Vote] Feature App: Homesh: Connect 2023 to Old Homey for Led, Speaker, Zwave(satellite) and network resource - Apps - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/t/vote-feature-app-homesh-connect-2023-to-old-homey-for-led-speaker-zwave-satellite-and-network-resource/70369/33) > [@Hannes85](#): > > can you help understand why older SDK’s are not supported anymore? I would love to have some kind of backwards compatibility feature for all those “legacy/ left behind” apps that lost their support from the developer but are adding a lot of value still to the platform? This way the community driven development is less impacted. Because it will keep running badly, or at least, it will run much beter if every app is SDK3 and mostly: if SDK2 doesn’t need to be in the sourceode anymore, it’s much beter. It otherwise leaves a mess. ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/73 "2022-10-14T21:17:24Z")
> [@iamjwk](#): > > Please make it possible to use the Homey Pro 2019 as a satellite. This to make this old Homey not a useless piece off junk ☹ [[Vote] Feature App: Homesh: Connect 2023 to Old Homey for Led, Speaker, Zwave(satellite) and network resource - Apps - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/t/vote-feature-app-homesh-connect-2023-to-old-homey-for-led-speaker-zwave-satellite-and-network-resource/70369/33) > [@Homey Pro (Early 2023) missing Speech - Speech Alternatives](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-missing-speech-speech-alternatives/70551/3): > > Alexa is of no use here. There is no way currently to let Alexa talk as a result of a Homey flow. > > I do not have google. > > I know the internal speaker is not there, that is why I am asking what I should add to my setup to enable voice feedback again. I use it a lot and find it extremely usefull. For the use cases I mention a pushmessage is just not usefull enough. Do you have a TV with browser you can send and URL to? Or can you send a URL to speakers? Or an URL to Alexa? If so, use the Google Services App to create voice. (You can use the Non-Cloud without setting up anything) ---
**Author:** ![Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arie_j_godschalk/32/63027_2.png) [@Arie\_J\_Godschalk](https://community.homey.app/u/Arie_J_Godschalk)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/74 "2022-10-14T21:19:17Z")
> [@Homey Pro (Early 2023) missing Speech - Speech Alternatives](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-missing-speech-speech-alternatives/70551/1): > > What do I need to add to my setup to get voice feedback back ? See [[TUTORIAL] How to make a Great Public Announcement (P.A.) System with any device! - Tutorials - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/t/tutorial-how-to-make-a-great-public-announcement-p-a-system-with-any-device/43481) > [@johan\_W](#): > > Q 2: Replace back the speaker option, homey is part off the livingroom and make’s a lot off message’s (Door still open, garbage will be collect, use off sun energie, I have done ect) > > Q 3: Place ledring back (part off the livingroom) inform energie status (WAF) While i do agree, this is not realistic in any way. They cannot change stuff like that or it might be 1 or 2 years later before the product sees the light of day. I would have prefered to keep the led and speaker also, but these are the products that are gonna come (right now), so pick it or leave it is al we can do. But i did find a sort of solution: [[Vote] Feature App: Homesh: Connect 2023 to Old Homey for Led, Speaker, Zwave(satellite) and network resource - Apps - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/t/vote-feature-app-homesh-connect-2023-to-old-homey-for-led-speaker-zwave-satellite-and-network-resource/70369) > [@Marcel\_Visser](#): > > A solution for the missing speaker will be very nice. I’m using the soundboard app for some things that cannot be fixed by using a Google home speaker. Also, those streaming devices having some delay wich is not usable in every case. Already integrated Soundboard in the Homesh Apps: > [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Homesh Controller & Homesh Satellite - Connect Homey Pro 2023 to Homey Pro for Led, Speaker, Zwave(satellite) and network resource](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homesh-controller-homesh-satellite-connect-homey-pro-2023-to-homey-pro-for-led-speaker-zwave-satellite-and-network-resource/70369/58): > > ### The 5 (currently) flowcards (Then) > > - Play Soundboard file > - Play Url (mp3 and wav BIGGER than 900 KB are supported, do not start a song of 20 minutes, you cannot stop it currently 🙂 ) > Works great with sending the URL from the [Google Services App for Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.qluster-it.GoogleServices/Google-Services/) > - Say (Google) will let the Satellite speak, based on a google services (No app required!) > - Say (Athom) Uses the default speech from athom > - Start flow with arguments. > Here you will get a dropdown/selectlist with all flownames you have used in the Satellite. > Triggering this will trigger the Satellite flow directly. @Marcel_Visser do you have a router with USB-stick or NAS or UPnP server? You can use that to play the same sound-files on your speakers. [Universele Media Speler App voor Homey | Homey](https://homey.app/nl-nl/app/nl.qluster-it.UniversalMediaPlayer/Universele-Media-Speler/) ---
**Author:** ![Jamie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jamie/32/5274_2.png) [@Jamie](https://community.homey.app/u/Jamie)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 7:47am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/76 "2022-10-15T07:47:44Z")
- What is the quality of the power supply for Homey Pro 2? - Number of Zigbee devices supported? - More detail on the SSH - what types of things can be done with it? ---
**Author:** ![jfilipelcarvalho](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jfilipelcarvalho/32/41875_2.png) [@jfilipelcarvalho](https://community.homey.app/u/jfilipelcarvalho)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/77 "2022-10-15T09:02:27Z")
The price is very high… I like the homey bridge, yet 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/78 "2022-10-15T13:49:39Z")
> Moderation action: > As there was a complete offtopic Alexa discussion / workaround in this topic goïng on I split these Questions and all Reply’s to a new topic. > Please stay on topic: so formulate your Questions to Athom / Emile for the AMA session! For the other discussion: Continue here: [Homey Pro (Early 2023) missing Speech - Speech Alternatives](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-pro-early-2023-missing-speech-speech-alternatives/70551) ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378/80 "2022-10-15T17:34:00Z")
@Mark_Stevens Maybe try this translation page to keep everything in english. Works easy. [https://www.deepl.com/nl/translator](https://www.deepl.com/nl/translator) And a bit of steenkool Engels is no problem 😉 [Previous page](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378.md?page=2) [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/the-new-homey-pro-ask-me-anything/70378.md?page=4)