# \[Solved\] Aeotec Siren 6 / Doorbell 6 stutters a few times before giving a full ring

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/solved-aeotec-siren-6-doorbell-6-stutters-a-few-times-before-giving-a-full-ring/56638>\
**Category:** Devices\
**Tags:** z-wave\
**Created:** [December 15, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/solved-aeotec-siren-6-doorbell-6-stutters-a-few-times-before-giving-a-full-ring/56638 "2021-12-15T17:56:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/solved-aeotec-siren-6-doorbell-6-stutters-a-few-times-before-giving-a-full-ring/56638/1 "2021-12-15T17:56:03Z")

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I bought two Aeotec Siren 6 today and I am very happy with them, but only after I fixed the problem I had after I just added them:

When triggering a doorbel or alarm from a flow, the siren often stuttered: it started the Ding Dong sound several times in short succession, until it finally rang normally. Also, when I created a flow that triggers on doorbell 1 to make a timeline notification, I got several notifications. (I do not own a button, so I do not know if it also stutters when you use the button.)

After trying several things, such as including unsecure and healing the mesh (I have plenty z-wave routers) nothing seemed to fix it.

That is - until I saw something peculiar in the settings. All association groups had ID 1 or 1.1 in them - which is Homey. Normally only group 1 (the lifeline) has the controller ID. All the other groups are normally blank when pairing fresh. So I pulled up the manual, which state, as I expected, that all groups 2 - 9 mirror some if the messages that go to the lifeline.

So what happens is: when the bell rings, the Siren sends another bell command though group 4 (Doorbel 1). Essentially this creates a feedback loop, which is kind of a wonder that it ends at all. Group 1 should contain ID 1 (Homey), which always receives all messages. All the other groups should contain ID’s other than 1 or not contain any ID at all.

So when I removed all associations from groups 2 and on, the stutter was gone! I did curiously enough still get multiple timeline messages from the doorbell trigger during the sound, but way less then before.

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**Author:** ![Edwin\_D](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_d/32/136417_2.png) [@Edwin\_D](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_D)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/solved-aeotec-siren-6-doorbell-6-stutters-a-few-times-before-giving-a-full-ring/56638/2 "2021-12-15T17:57:46Z")

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So - the solution: after pairing the Aeotec Siren 6 or Aeotec Doorbell 6, go to the advanced options and clear association groups 2 through 9. Always leave group 1 set to 1 though!

Note that when you clear association ID’s, that sometimes they appear cleared in the settings but are not actually cleared in the device. To fix that I often first put in a non-existing ID, save that, and then clear it again and save it again.