# Smart Cord Switch

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [October 22, 2023, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489 "2023-10-22T09:02:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 9:02am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/1 "2023-10-22T09:02:59Z")

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I have 3 pcs of Swiid Cord Switch but unfortunately, they are not z-wave plus so I will not use them.  
I have been searching for alternatives and found Frient Smart Cable only problem is that it is huge.

Is there anybody who have some ideas what could be a good alternative to the Swiid Cord Switch?

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 9:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/2 "2023-10-22T09:16:09Z")

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What is the problem with Z-Wave instead of Z-Wave plus for you?

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 10:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/3 "2023-10-22T10:44:24Z")

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Since I use it on a rather large area covering 4 buildings (soon to be 5) with about 150 units in total at the moment (but slowly growing ) I need both the extended bandwidth and the extended range in z-wave plus.  
Introducing a z-wave only will disrupt my network.

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**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/4 "2023-10-22T11:05:16Z")

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> [@IronG](#):
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> 150 units

How many with Z-Wave?

> [@IronG](#):
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> I need both the extended bandwidth and the extended range in z-wave plus.

Do you have any problems with these switches at the moment? E.g. disconnections?  
And you think that by replacing the Z-Wave switches with Z-Wave Plus switches, a huge improvement in coverage will be realized?

> [@IronG](#):
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> Introducing a z-wave only will disrupt my network.

Because why?

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/5 "2023-10-22T12:18:59Z")

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Because when I introduce none plus units everything that comes after will be limited by that device. I will lose bandwith and hop.  
Since I can´t and don´t want (even if I could) to manage the structure of the z-wave mesh network manually this will disrupt the network.  
Many times the none z-wave unit becomes the end of the line.

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/6 "2023-10-22T12:24:13Z")

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It is 150 z-wave plus units and 20 zigbee.

And yes, I have replaced all the none plus devices a long time ago and it made a huge diffrence.  
The smart cord switch is the last, and least important.

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/7 "2023-10-22T12:31:40Z")

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You could perhaps create a second ZWave network just for these devices (if you have a second controller somewhere) and maybe use zwave2mqtt to get the Swiid devices into Homey…

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/8 "2023-10-22T12:39:09Z")

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I have done that before but it adds complexity which I want to avoid.

A few years ago, I decided try out the Zipabox from Zipato, so I bought a new Zipabox 2 and an used Zipabox 1 and created a cluster with 2 networks.  
I left Zipabox and went for Fibaro HC3 because of the horrendous customer support from Zipato and the lack of implementation of new devices.

However, let´s just say I don´t want to go down that route again.

Then I left Fibaro HC3 and went for Homey Pro because I needed the integration with my electric supplier Tibber.

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/9 "2023-10-22T12:41:24Z")

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Well it seems you don’t want to work around the issue so you’re back in search of a size equivalent ZWave plus commercial product. Maybe there is one…

PS I too have discovered the truly awful Zipato support

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/10 "2023-10-22T12:45:53Z")

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A don’t like workarounds because they tends to come back and bite you in the ass sooner or later. 😃

I want my z-wave to be just as stable as my Jablotron alarm system and I am willing to spend the money to get there.

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/11 "2023-10-22T12:49:07Z")

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It is a pity about Zipato, a master class example how a buggy software and an awful customer support can kill a brilliant hardware solution.

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/12 "2023-10-22T12:51:26Z")

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Does Jablotron integrate nicely with Homey?

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/13 "2023-10-22T12:59:01Z")

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Unfortunately, not. At the moment I use Heatit Z-DIN 616 to transfer signals between the systems.  
However, on GitHub there are some code that I think could be investigated and used to create an App for Homey.  
See here: [GitHub - kukulich/home-assistant-jablotron100: Home Assistant custom component for JABLOTRON 100+ alarm system](https://github.com/kukulich/home-assistant-jablotron100)

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**Author:** ![JPe4619](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jpe4619/32/9017_2.png) [@JPe4619](https://community.homey.app/u/JPe4619)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/14 "2023-10-22T13:09:11Z")

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Maybe the housing is big anaugh for a in-wall module to replace the current electronics?

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**Author:** ![xAPPO](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/xappo/32/13726_2.png) [@xAPPO](https://community.homey.app/u/xAPPO)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/15 "2023-10-22T13:13:25Z")

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> [@IronG](#):
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> Unfortunately, not. At the moment I use Heatit Z-DIN 616 to transfer signals between the systems

Sounds like a work around 😛

Could you not use ZWave bulbs in your 3 fittings and forgo floor switch control?

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**Author:** ![IronG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/irong/32/80103_2.png) [@IronG](https://community.homey.app/u/IronG)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/smart-cord-switch/92489/16 "2023-10-22T13:13:35Z")

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Unfortunately not.  
This is the old cord switch.  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/5/f/5f8a8ad5a2640ebdd4bdf11fcd8ac5d13ffcd542.png)
