# Small but Mighty — Live announcement and Q&A **URL:** \ **Category:** Official Announcements\ **Created:** [December 18, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533 "2024-12-18T09:59:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Doekse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doekse/32/109415_2.png) [@Doekse](https://community.homey.app/u/Doekse)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/1 "2024-12-18T09:59:27Z")
Three weeks, three epic announcements! This evening, we’re back with our third and final reveal — and again, you won’t want to miss it! Join us LIVE on YouTube at 19:00 CET for another 𝘣𝘪𝘨, and at the same time 𝘴𝘮𝘢𝘭𝘭 reveal 📺 👉 Follow this link to get notified when we go live: [https://www.youtube.com/live/4BHsa1\_Ed2U](https://www.youtube.com/live/4BHsa1_Ed2U) See you there 🚀 ![Small teaser](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/9/d/9dc057dc3db01d168b4d3bea0a11e3ffa59b7731.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![aesubs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/aesubs/32/113989_2.png) [@aesubs](https://community.homey.app/u/aesubs)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/4 "2024-12-18T18:20:15Z")
I mean, a cheaper homey pro means a larger user base, means more revenue to spend on developing enhancements and improvements. At least _in theory_, user base growth would mean a better platform for existing users. ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/5 "2024-12-18T18:31:51Z")
why so many negative opinions on Youtube 🤷‍♂️ A HomeyMini for 1/2 price for beginners is a good start. I know many people don’t want to pay 400€ just to try. I think many users just started with simple things like Hue are a nice target group. ---
**Author:** ![deejayreissue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/deejayreissue/32/81912_2.png) [@deejayreissue](https://community.homey.app/u/deejayreissue)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/6 "2024-12-18T18:36:10Z")
Yep. I agree its a good move. Its a shame people only focus on the outstanding issues and not what has actually been delivered this year. Moods, Energy and Dashboards are great. The UI makes HA look very dated. ---
**Author:** ![aesubs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/aesubs/32/113989_2.png) [@aesubs](https://community.homey.app/u/aesubs)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/7 "2024-12-18T18:36:58Z")
> [@RonnyW](#): > > for beginners is a good start I wouldnt even say its that. I have zero zwave or 433 devices. But use matter, scripts and advanced flows. If you dont need the transport protocols that are omitted on the mini, it can likely be your one and only purchase with no need to ever upgrade. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/8 "2024-12-18T18:39:06Z")
> [@deejayreissue](#): > > Its a shame people only focus on the outstanding issues and not what has actually been delivered this year. I think that if you’re affected by those outstanding issues, it’s a bit of a disappointment to see they don’t get solved while new features _that take up more developer time_ are being introduced all the time. You get the impression that those outstanding issues might not get the appreciation they need. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/9 "2024-12-18T18:39:40Z")
Those are all additions, I think customers first want a reliable product like promised when they bought their Homey. And then, eventually additions. ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/10 "2024-12-18T18:57:20Z")
I understand some people still have some problems, but making a fool of yourself repeating dumb remarks all the time, is just, well, plain stupidity. If you look at the bigger picture you’ll see this is a good move. This product is not aimed at the public here on this forum, this is to expand business, mainly in the US and CA at first, but it may also fit existing users of the old homey if they combine it with a bridge when needed at a lower pricepoint as the full pro. I’m just disappointed it’s not a speaker and speech isn’t returning 😉 ---
**Author:** ![F3006](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/f3006/32/37967_2.png) [@F3006](https://community.homey.app/u/F3006)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 6:57pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/11 "2024-12-18T18:57:39Z")
Is it possible to use homey 2019 as satelite for the pro mini ? for zwave @Doekse ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/12 "2024-12-18T19:04:10Z")
Another good point in the Q&A was announcement of BT satellite mode for HomeyBridge. That could bring back BT apps. I use an ESP for MiFlora outside to integrate sensors via Mqtt. I can imagine, a Bridge to cover these areas can make BT working again for many users. ---
**Author:** ![Till](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/till/32/33841_2.png) [@Till](https://community.homey.app/u/Till)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/13 "2024-12-18T19:06:27Z")
Hm…so…I buy the Homey Pro Mini plus the Homey bridge and get a full running system like Homey Pro 2023 for USD 268,–. Why should I buy a Homey Pro then?? Why the price in Europe will be higher? Didn´t understand their pseudo economic talk. It is just because the americans are more price sensitive. So this one will be launched in 2025, so there will be a new Homey Pro in 2027 latest and a nrw Homey Pro Mini in 2029… clever. ---
**Author:** ![RonnyW](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ronnyw/32/10879_2.png) [@RonnyW](https://community.homey.app/u/RonnyW)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/14 "2024-12-18T19:11:50Z")
> [@Till](#): > > Why should I buy a Homey Pro then?? HomeyPro is the all in one for power users (already have experience with smart home). HomeyMini is for starters ihmo. You don’t need a Bridge. If you are new to smart home, you can just stay at ZigBee. ---
**Author:** ![Edwin\_Biemond](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/edwin_biemond/32/72686_2.png) [@Edwin\_Biemond](https://community.homey.app/u/Edwin_Biemond)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/15 "2024-12-18T19:15:28Z")
> [@RonnyW](#): > > BT satellite mode for HomeyBridge. nice , also do on HA also for my plants and gradena sprinklers , super cheap 3 for 30 euro , easy to program and they work over wifi. > **[Ready-Made Projects](https://esphome.io/projects/?type=bluetooth)** > > Install ready-made projects directly on your device. ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/16 "2024-12-18T19:16:33Z")
The Homey Pro Mini with a Homey Bridge is not exactly the same, if you listened closely you’ll find they saved money by using a compute module with lesser internal memory, so you’ll not be able to run the same amount of apps as on a full blown Homey Pro. (but if you need less then 25 apps they said you’ll be fine) And the price point, well, US prices are always mentioned without Sales Tax because Sales Tax differs per state. So, you will not be able to buy it for the advertised price in most states. Comparing US prices to EU prices is almost impossible. (and also exchange rates) ---
**Author:** ![Till](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/till/32/33841_2.png) [@Till](https://community.homey.app/u/Till)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/17 "2024-12-18T19:27:30Z")
You are right only 1 Gb …yeah… just counted… 27 Apps running…from which I still must delete five…yes…getting a bit tight with only 1 GB…but if you used it with the bridge?`Ok forget it…you must pay for Homey bridge monthly… didt know that. ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/18 "2024-12-18T19:34:42Z")
No, there is no monthly fee for a bridge, the subscription fee is for Homey (without the Pro) which is a cloud based subscription model Homey. When using a bridge with Homey Pro or the upcoming Homey Pro Mini there is no fee to be paid. (@Doekse I think the marketing department has some work to do here, the distinction Homey - Homey Bridge - Homey Pro and their possible combinations is still confusing for many users) ---
**Author:** ![Till](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/till/32/33841_2.png) [@Till](https://community.homey.app/u/Till)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/20 "2024-12-18T20:04:13Z")
Well I got a Homey Pro and never cared about the other products… but true it is confusing So Homey is a subscription modell, if you want zigbee , zwave etc you need the bridge… guess i got it now… or you can use the BRidge as a satellite for Homey Pro (and Mini) ---
**Author:** ![Doekse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/doekse/32/109415_2.png) [@Doekse](https://community.homey.app/u/Doekse)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/21 "2024-12-18T20:17:18Z")
The subscription is only required if you don’t have a Homey Pro and are using the Homey App or Homey Bridge. But even then It’s only needed if you want to connect more than 5 devices or access advanced features like Homey Moods, Insights, or Advanced Flows. When using the Homey Bridge in Satellite mode, all processing is handled by Homey Pro, eliminating the need for cloud services or a subscription. ---
**Author:** ![Sharkys](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/sharkys/32/54029_2.png) [@Sharkys](https://community.homey.app/u/Sharkys)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 8:42pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/22 "2024-12-18T20:42:08Z")
I wish you success with this small Homey Pro brother, even I (as Homey user since 2019) was hoping for rather bigger brother (not in sense of LG big brother 🙃) but I fully understand that this product shall actually help your business grow and keep profitable and is actually good for everyone. I’m also sure you made market research about target audience, so keeping fingers crossed you find the target groups and win the fight compared to those cheap and limited gateways. What is also great, this limited HW (eg. RAM) will push you even more on optimizations, so looking forward to those improvements 😉 as this will resolve some of the issues actually popping up. I guess, internally you are running CM4001008… So in a good sense, let this be a success 🤞 🤞 🤞 ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533/24 "2024-12-18T22:19:25Z")
That’s what you get when current problems are ignored (I am not the only one reporting Zigbee problems) and instead focus on new functionality and problems. That’s what’s really dumb here. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/small-but-mighty-live-announcement-and-q-a/124533.md?page=2)