# Several geofences/zones ie. "school" or "work" **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Tags:** featurerequest\ **Created:** [September 6, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610 "2024-09-06T10:48:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bertelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_bertelsen/32/78899_2.png) [@Christian\_Bertelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Christian_Bertelsen)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/1 "2024-09-06T10:48:12Z")
Hi, tried to search the forum, but could not find an exact answer to my feature request: In home assistant its possible to define zones outside home, as in “school” og “work”. I find it weird that it isn’t a feature thats present natively with Homey Pro? Could someone from Athom explain why not, as it seems as a relevant functionality in a integrating smart hub. I ofcourse, do not know what tehcnicalities it involves, but it just seems rather logic to have that functionalty as theres already a zone-logic in the system, and a location-funtion in the settings. I am aware of owntracks etc. and i have been tweaking and fiddling with it, and still it’s a often a bit hit’n’miss if the flows work. So its a feature-request AND a question out of curiousity TIA, Christian ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/2 "2024-09-06T10:52:59Z")
> [@Christian\_Bertelsen](#): > > Could someone from Athom explain why not, as it seems as a relevant functionality in a integrating smart hub It’s probably best to [submit a support request](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360015784034-Submitting-a-support-request) if you want a definitive answer, this is a community forum that Athom doesn’t officially follow (another weird thing 🤷🏼‍♂️). ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 11:19am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/3 "2024-09-06T11:19:53Z")
As my Homey is always at Home😁, I am just curious to see some use cases which clarifies your feature request. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/4 "2024-09-06T11:35:37Z")
There are indeed use cases. For example, when I leave work, I want the heating temperature to be set higher. I already do this when we are on vacation, leave our hotel on the day of departure and it’s the heating season. But instead of using _ **Owntracks** _ and _ **Location and Presence** _ app, I use web hooks with an iPhone geofencing app ([Geofency](https://www.geofency.com)), also for the generell Home/Away detection. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/5 "2024-09-06T19:28:51Z")
> [@Christian\_Bertelsen](#): > > and still it’s a often a bit hit’n’miss if the flows work In case of Android: Maybe it’s due to the tighter app permissions: I use owntracks+location&presence, and Macrodroid+webhooks, very reliable. But, with Android 13+, I found out I have to ‘force’ start Owntracks after a phone reboot, and also I make sure it gets started when I leave my home location. Macrodroid macros control those actions. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bertelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_bertelsen/32/78899_2.png) [@Christian\_Bertelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Christian_Bertelsen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/6 "2024-09-07T06:50:54Z")
I’m just gonna let you work that out all by yourself, as i wasn’t talking about the Homey device itself, but are talking about the Zone-functionality, and expanding that to other zones than the only one currently available (Home) 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bertelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_bertelsen/32/78899_2.png) [@Christian\_Bertelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Christian_Bertelsen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/7 "2024-09-07T06:54:47Z")
> [@robertklep](#): > > > [@Christian\_Bertelsen](#): > > > > Could someone from Athom explain why not, as it seems as a relevant functionality in a integrating smart hub > > It’s probably best to [submit a support request](https://support.homey.app/hc/en-us/articles/360015784034-Submitting-a-support-request) if you want a definitive answer, this is a community forum that Athom doesn’t officially follow (another weird thing 🤷🏼‍♂️). Thanks, i wasn’t sure if i was posting the right place - but now it lingers both places 🙂 . I already got an response, but no answer (from Athom). It’ll be taking to notice, which probably means i won’t be holding my breath 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bertelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_bertelsen/32/78899_2.png) [@Christian\_Bertelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Christian_Bertelsen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/8 "2024-09-07T06:59:51Z")
> [@Peter\_Kawa](#): > > > [@Christian\_Bertelsen](#): > > > > and still it’s a often a bit hit’n’miss if the flows work > > In case of Android: > Maybe it’s due to the tighter app permissions: > I use owntracks+location&presence, and Macrodroid+webhooks, very reliable. > But, > with Android 13+, I found out I have to ‘force’ start Owntracks after a phone reboot, and also I make sure it gets started when I leave my home location. > Macrodroid macros control those actions. Thanks @Peter_Kawa, all has been checked with app-permissions, battery-rules etc. The Owntracks app is visible as a curtain-notification on my phone and my wifes phone. I’ll have to look into the macrodroid+webhook thing, as the biggest trouble is with my sons iphone, which really hates to allow other apps communicating, besides bulit-in Apple-labeled stuff…is the solution you use, heavy on the iphone battery? ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/9 "2024-09-07T18:38:41Z")
Then you can find out for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Christian\_Bertelsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/christian_bertelsen/32/78899_2.png) [@Christian\_Bertelsen](https://community.homey.app/u/Christian_Bertelsen)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 5:39am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/10 "2024-09-08T05:39:54Z")
👍 ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 12:34pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/11 "2024-09-08T12:34:27Z")
> [@Christian\_Bertelsen](#): > > talking about the Zone-functionality To be clear, Homey’s zone activity and geofencing are two completely different things. Homey’s zone activity works via door/window and motion sensors. This also works independently of a smartphone. Homey’s Home/Away detection, whether at home or at work, if it were possible, only works with a smartphone via geofencing. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/12 "2024-09-08T12:55:17Z")
> [@DirkG](#): > > To be clear, Homey’s zone activity and geofencing are two completely different things. To be more clear: with “Zone-functionality” I assume OP means “as implemented in Home Assistant”, where “zone” means “geographical zone”. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/13 "2024-09-08T13:06:46Z")
But this is a Homey forum, not a Home Assistant forum. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/14 "2024-09-08T13:11:01Z")
So what’s the Homey word for the same functionality? ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 1:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/15 "2024-09-08T13:26:48Z")
Home/Away or Presence detection. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/16 "2024-09-08T13:31:53Z")
That’s not the same functionality, though, hence the question and the reference to (Home Assistant’s) zones. ---
**Author:** ![DirkG](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dirkg/32/118897_2.png) [@DirkG](https://community.homey.app/u/DirkG)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2024, 4:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-geofences-zones-ie-school-or-work/115610/17 "2024-09-08T16:37:41Z")
No one said that this is the same function and that this function exists in Homey. It has already been mentioned several times that Homey doesn’t have such a function for multiple locations on board. Also, I explained what Homey user means by Zones (Activity) and how it works. So I think you are just playing around with words.