# Several cards for starting a flow **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [March 11, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430 "2019-03-11T15:02:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RVQRAT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvqrat/32/7038_2.png) [@RVQRAT](https://community.homey.app/u/RVQRAT)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 3:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/1 "2019-03-11T15:02:19Z")
Hello, I would like to start a flow if one of several devices have been activated. I would like in other words to be able to have several cards in parallel under “when”. Does anybody know how to do that? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/2 "2019-03-11T15:15:00Z")
use “when this flow has been started” and use separate flows for the triggers to start that flow: fa : when this flow has been started turn out light ta : when button pushed start flow fa tb : when motion detected start flow fa tc : when Homey heard someone say “do it” start flow fa ---
**Author:** ![RVQRAT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvqrat/32/7038_2.png) [@RVQRAT](https://community.homey.app/u/RVQRAT)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/3 "2019-03-11T15:21:04Z")
Thank’s for the answer. I have been thinking about this but it feels bad to have to do it in this way increase the number of flows). Isn’t it possible to put the different triggers in parallel under “when”? And if not, is this planned for a future release? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/4 "2019-03-11T15:37:38Z")
> [@RVQRAT](#): > > Isn’t it possible to put the different triggers in parallel under “when”? > And if not, is this planned for a future release? It is not possible and not planned, for ease and consistency Athom has said it will not implement it. ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/5 "2019-03-11T16:47:10Z")
Unless of course you capability-grouped devices (like motion-alarms): ![afbeelding](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/a/a81d1e92dd7e83bd1f2f97b90715574342c92233.png) ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/6 "2019-03-11T16:53:14Z")
(offtopic) @bvdbos I thought you were converted to the church of Heimdall… 😢 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bvdbos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bvdbos/32/2352_2.png) [@bvdbos](https://community.homey.app/u/bvdbos)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/7 "2019-03-11T17:23:14Z")
(also offtopic) there’s multiple churches I converted to already: - the [Church of Fleddy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJPDv4aimM) - the [Church of the flying spaghetti-monster](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster) - the [Church of KLF](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKtTrfBDpO8) - the [Church of Enigma](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F9DxYhqmKw) ---
**Author:** ![DaneedeKruyff](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daneedekruyff/32/964_2.png) [@DaneedeKruyff](https://community.homey.app/u/DaneedeKruyff)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/8 "2019-03-11T17:44:17Z")
👍 Respect to the man in the ice cream van! ---
**Author:** ![FKey](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/fkey/32/14793_2.png) [@FKey](https://community.homey.app/u/FKey)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2019, 10:40pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/9 "2019-03-11T22:40:28Z")
L > [@RVQRAT](#): > > I have been thinking about this but it feels bad to have to do it in this way increase the number of flows). Maybe your feeling is not right (yet) 😉 After playing a lot with flows I currently have the habit of splitting up almost all my flows: 1. Trigger flows: flows triggered by time or an action (motion). These flows typically have a THEN: start A flow 2. action flows: flows that typically start with When “this flow is started” and have a then with the specified action 3. scene flows: flows that set a certain scene (like dimmed light in living, bright lights in living) The big advantage is that you can easily trigger multiple action with one trigger. Without the flows becoming complex. Example: Trigger flow that starts my day, but not every day start at the same time…: (Kept together in a folder “time settings”) If my mornng routines changes, I just change 1 flow and all the other flows stay stable ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/c/c6a578f2b037d0547098d2da805cbb1af0154f01.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/6/68e710f0883434804c4055c21a3c4ad9c3cd18e8.jpeg) The THEN creates a pulse on a virtual device, this pulse is used to trigger action flows (These flows are stored in a folder related to a room) Turn on the lights in the living ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/5/5107c44a75735a4ce44d85caed3726596d8ebf3f.jpeg) In the kitchen ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/9/90d98f9ffba53fc8ffa103db154e7320a812db4f.jpeg) If I want the coffemachine to heat up, I just create an extra flow with the same virtaul device as a trigger If I want the kitchen lights to turn on later… I just change the WHEN to a different virtual device The “living room ON”is a virtual device switch. I use this as a condition in several other flows. This switch triggers a “scene” via a virtual device pushbutton. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/d/d53282b22ad37408240aec4bc1542c4edbb578eb.jpeg) And finally the “scene” flow that sets all my lights to a defined scene ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/5/5cb035dd83220ab0444b930f5ab6984d890408eb.jpeg) This scene is not only called by the flow livingroom on” but is also used by other flows (coming home at night, while status of livingroom is off) So Yes, its a lot of flows. But its very flexible and stable And easy to reuse flows And I can group my flows easily per room, per action (settings) ---
**Author:** ![RVQRAT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rvqrat/32/7038_2.png) [@RVQRAT](https://community.homey.app/u/RVQRAT)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:28am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/several-cards-for-starting-a-flow/10430/10 "2019-03-12T07:28:34Z")
Thanks for that, I understand what you mean and it makes sense. I am more used to program complex PLC systems with different programming possibilities and there the way of programming is different.