# Seperate the input from output - Fibaro Smart Implant **URL:** \ **Category:** Devices\ **Created:** [April 25, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950 "2020-04-25T17:32:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JerX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jerx/32/18722_2.png) [@JerX](https://community.homey.app/u/JerX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/1 "2020-04-25T17:32:59Z")
Hi, How can I disconnect the input from the output? Now, when I push the button connected to input 1, output 1 gives contact too. But I don’t want that. Should I change parameter 20 to 0 or 1 instead of 2 or is there another way? On input 1 is Doorbell 1 connected. On input 2 is Doorbell 2 connected. On output 1 is de garage door connected. So I don’t want that the garage door opens when doorbell 1 is pushed 🙂 By default this is the case, but I want to change it. Kind regards, Jeroen ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/2 "2020-04-25T17:45:36Z")
This is unfortunately not possible this is a hardware/Fibaro limitation that we can’t change. It will always change the output corresponding the input based on parameter 20 / 21, they could have easily added a value: 2 to parameters 154 and 155 (don’t follow input), but they didn’t ---
**Author:** ![JerX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jerx/32/18722_2.png) [@JerX](https://community.homey.app/u/JerX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/3 "2020-04-25T17:54:43Z")
Okay, damn. There goes my plan. And what did value 0 and 1 for parameter 20 and 21 than? It’s something for an alarm, but what if the real difference? ---
**Author:** ![Caseda](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/caseda/32/138695_2.png) [@Caseda](https://community.homey.app/u/Caseda)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/4 "2020-04-25T17:59:37Z")
Parameter 20 value 1 and 2 are just different commands send to the controller, the behavior for the outputs stays the same. ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:16pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/5 "2020-04-25T19:16:23Z")
> [@JerX](#): > > There goes my plan. The [Shelly 2.5](https://shelly.cloud/shelly-25-wifi-smart-relay-roller-shutter-home-automation/) has a detached button mode. Quite cheap too, but WiFi-only. ---
**Author:** ![JerX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jerx/32/18722_2.png) [@JerX](https://community.homey.app/u/JerX)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/6 "2020-04-25T19:27:09Z")
Thx robertklep. Any other zwave or ZigBee products that have an input where there is no main power and can be contacted to any other switch or button? I’ve found a klikaanklikuit product with battery but on the 433 frequency. I hope it will work. Maybe I can connect my doorbells on that. [https://www.bol.com/nl/p/klikaanklikuit-inbouwzender-awmt-003/9200000008213389/?s2a=](https://www.bol.com/nl/p/klikaanklikuit-inbouwzender-awmt-003/9200000008213389/?s2a=) ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/7 "2020-05-13T19:05:39Z")
You can separate the Inputs from Outputs by sending Z-Wave Raw Parameters Using the Protection Command Class (0x75) ![Bildschirmfoto 2020-05-13 um 21.04.43](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/e/b/eb8f24d9d3cd1b819bee188f79d0d4a9e25408c7.png) Node-ID,0x75,0x1,0x2,0x0 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bittner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_bittner/32/16698_2.png) [@Peter\_Bittner](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Bittner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/8 "2020-05-13T19:17:20Z")
Great. Can you describe how to do this? Do you input this data into the Advanced Parameters value field? ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/9 "2020-05-13T19:21:31Z")
Go to the [developer page](https://developer.athom.com/tools/zwave) and send the this parameter using Send Raw Date as describe above. ![Bildschirmfoto 2020-05-13 um 21.19.03](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/c/d/cd5e301ab4bc836df622d6f78b7fd3ffebb546bf.png) Replace the Node-ID 211 through yours. ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/10 "2020-05-13T19:27:54Z")
> [@Caseda](#): > > This is unfortunately not possible this is a hardware/Fibaro limitation that we can’t change. Fortunately, the professionals can also be wrong. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bittner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_bittner/32/16698_2.png) [@Peter\_Bittner](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Bittner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/11 "2020-05-13T19:35:26Z")
Thanks again. I’m getting closer. I understand using my own Node Id and I have a software development background. But as I am very new to Homey and am not aware of a developer page I need to ask: how do I get to the developer page? ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/12 "2020-05-13T19:41:21Z")
> [@Peter\_Bittner](#): > > how do I get to the developer page? Sorry it was the wrong Hyperlink in my post. [https://developer.athom.com/tools/zwave](https://developer.athom.com/tools/zwave) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bittner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_bittner/32/16698_2.png) [@Peter\_Bittner](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Bittner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/13 "2020-05-13T19:48:17Z")
Got it. If this works I’ll be over the moon. So I just enter the raw data as per your post using my own devices Id. There is nothing I need to do to the device to put it in a particular mode or anything? Is it possible to download the data from the device to see what data is set? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bittner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_bittner/32/16698_2.png) [@Peter\_Bittner](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Bittner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/14 "2020-05-13T19:49:40Z")
It is amazing how few people understand all of this. And that includes the Fibaro and Homey support staff. ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/15 "2020-05-13T19:59:09Z")
> [@Peter\_Bittner](#): > > It is amazing how few people understand all of this. It’s not amazing, it’s scary! ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/16 "2020-05-13T20:00:50Z")
> [@Peter\_Bittner](#): > > There is nothing I need to do to the device to put it in a particular mode or anything? If the device is powered by a battery, then you have to wake up the device. > [@Peter\_Bittner](#): > > Is it possible to download the data from the device to see what data is set? I don’t thinks so. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/17 "2020-05-13T20:02:46Z")
So we think the Fibaro guys did not know this? Seen a post on this forum with a Fibaro support reaction with the same outcome today. Wyrd to say the Fibaro guys don’t understand this. ---
**Author:** ![Osorkon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/osorkon/32/43026_2.png) [@Osorkon](https://community.homey.app/u/Osorkon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/18 "2020-05-13T20:08:05Z")
I did not claim it either. The experience apparently did @Peter_Bittner with the support of Homey and Fibaro. ---
**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/19 "2020-05-13T20:08:30Z")
I know. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Bittner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_bittner/32/16698_2.png) [@Peter\_Bittner](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Bittner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950/20 "2020-05-13T20:32:39Z")
I apologise if I was wrong. It’s just that I have been communicating with Fibaro support for a a week or two now and the last response I received was that this was not possible to do if you didn’t have an HC2 or HC3. Homey support the same. This forum was the only platform which has provided a solution. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/seperate-the-input-from-output-fibaro-smart-implant/28950.md?page=2)