# Ripped off **URL:** \ **Category:** Questions & Help\ **Created:** [March 7, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310 "2023-03-07T19:15:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Michael\_Trans](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/michael_trans/32/71650_2.png) [@Michael\_Trans](https://community.homey.app/u/Michael_Trans)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/1 "2023-03-07T19:15:00Z")
Im a the only one, that feeling ripped off? The New bridge is nothing worth… Useless without the pro bridge… I guess that the use of ir blast is fine… But, non of the apps Are for the bridge… Most is for pro. Ledvance etc… Why? What Are the use og the bridge, when nothing is avalible for it… ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Rockall](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/adrian_rockall/32/13209_2.png) [@Adrian\_Rockall](https://community.homey.app/u/Adrian_Rockall)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 8:06pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/2 "2023-03-07T20:06:19Z")
To be fair, you could try Homey for free and then you would know if you need the bridge for zwave, Zigbee, BLE, etc. When you look at the price difference between a Homey Pro and a Homey account with a bridge it must have made you question the difference in abilities? ---
**Author:** ![Dijker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dijker](https://community.homey.app/u/Dijker)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/3 "2023-03-07T20:20:59Z")
There are quite a few topics her already, Guess you missed them before purchasing? Where have you orientated and Read before the decision to buy a Bridge? (Maybe we or someone can learn from that!) Also not to mention you can see it in the App store by applying the (Default) Filter for Homey what is available and what not. [Homey Cloud – Smart home made easy & fun for everyone](https://homey.app/en-us/homey/) > [@Athom announced Homey Cloud and Homey Bridge](https://community.homey.app/t/athom-announced-homey-cloud-and-homey-bridge/51242): > > This is a review on the prerelease info I got. Thanks Athom for providing the Homey Bridge as a preview. Both will be available soon™ for everyone ̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶e̶t̶a̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶[̶i̶n̶v̶i̶t̶e̶](http://beta.homey.app/ref/Ip44929174/). Athom is using a waiting list to iron out the issues while scaling up before releasing to the market. Homey Cloud is a subscription based Homey that gives you the Homey experience from a cloud hosted environment. Homey bridge is the extender to make home automation usin… > [@\[Info\] Homey - Homey Bridge - Homey Pro Maximums / Limitations](https://community.homey.app/t/info-homey-homey-bridge-homey-pro-maximums-limitations/51811): > > Seeing a couple of questions and suggestions about combinations that are just not possible I want to clarify some of the limitations. As from the Launch of the Homey Bridge 7th September 2021 Homey is a mobile “App” connecting a (Cloud) Service. The older Homey’s (Models Early 20xx) are re-branded as Homey Pro and Athom promised to treat them equal to the Homey Pro (with 2 Core CPU) regarding Firmware updates and service. Difference in Apps from Athom App store First of all, as this are most… > [@Homey (cloud / bridge version), a selection of available apps (WIKI)](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-cloud-bridge-version-a-selection-of-available-apps-wiki/51520/1): > > Athom updated the [Homey App Store](https://homey.app/apps/) you can select Homey beta or Homey Pro and when you scroll down, you’ll get the option to filter on platform and category and/or technology (Zigbee, Zwave, RF 433 Mhz, IR, Bluetooth LE, Cloud etc. ) Link: [https://homey.app/en-gb/apps/browse/#filter?platform=cloud](https://homey.app/en-gb/apps/browse/#filter?platform=cloud) Homey beta status: [https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/](https://homey.app/en-us/wiki/homey-beta-status/) We decided to create a list of apps. It also shows a quick view of the difference, app wise, between the Home… And because there arr quite a lot topics already, see [Search results for 'Bridge limited' - Homey Community Forum](https://community.homey.app/search?q=Bridge%20limited) > [@Homey limitations](https://community.homey.app/t/homey-limitations/59068): > > Hello everyone, I’m using Homey for about 2 years. I was looking for a home automation system for my house that can control several types of devices. So I started with Homey, then Hue, Xiaomi, Aqara, Shelly, IKEA and other devices, mostly on Zigbee. Firstly I saw Homey’s Zigbee limitations with the number of devices that can be added, I think something around 20. I know that using routers can extend the network, but I am currently having around 22 devices from which only 12 are directly co… ---
**Author:** ![Vnet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vnet](https://community.homey.app/u/Vnet)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 7:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/4 "2023-03-08T07:13:51Z")
I feel that i am the only one who likes the bridge plus its cloud variant of the homey. Depends what you want to control. I have zigbee,z-wave,kaku and various cloud services like hue and switchbot with 80 flows and 50 devices running without any issues for some time now. Zigbee and hue zigbee next to each other and I even connected a home assistant and plex instance to it for the more exotic devices (but hass is less available then homey is) Main brands and their apps i am using : Aeotec,fibaro,hue,ikea,switchbot,kaku,plex No forking 400 euros over for a pro It only cost 70 euros for the bridge and few euros per month of which the first 3 are free. Internet failure and scared of cloud? well, not me ---
**Author:** ![arovik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arovik/32/35065_2.png) [@arovik](https://community.homey.app/u/arovik)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 7:44am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/5 "2023-03-08T07:44:14Z")
Well, homey cloud/bridge work ok for me aswell, but the flows does not run all the time they should, so thats a big drawback… ---
**Author:** ![Vnet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vnet](https://community.homey.app/u/Vnet)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 8:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/6 "2023-03-08T08:22:29Z")
What type of flows? I do not experience that ---
**Author:** ![arovik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arovik/32/35065_2.png) [@arovik](https://community.homey.app/u/arovik)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 8:25am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/7 "2023-03-08T08:25:34Z")
I have several flows running from another flow everytime the power price changes (every hour), using the tibber app. All of the flows logs to the timeline, but it is only a few of the times all the subflows actually logs anything. Very hard to find out whats wrong, since there is no errors or anything ---
**Author:** ![Vnet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@Vnet](https://community.homey.app/u/Vnet)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 8:36am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/8 "2023-03-08T08:36:31Z")
So maybe the hysteresis on the tibber service is too large, meaning that updates are only processed if the values changes a lot ---
**Author:** ![arovik](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/arovik/32/35065_2.png) [@arovik](https://community.homey.app/u/arovik)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2023, 9:11am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/ripped-off/77310/9 "2023-03-08T09:11:04Z")
no, because the main flow kicks off all the times. This is the one based on the tibber app. The subflows is started from the main flow. but not all of those flows run all the time