# RF 433 MHz receive range disappointing **URL:** \ **Category:** Ideas & Suggestions\ **Tags:** homey-pro-2023\ **Created:** [August 26, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034 "2023-08-26T11:04:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/1 "2023-08-26T11:04:21Z")
I just want to express my disappointment concerning the receiving range of the Homey Pro. In many cases where HomeWizard and ICS-2000 are receiving signals, Homey Pro does not. Homey Pro promises 1,5 better reception, so how bad is the old Homey? Extending the receiving range with satellite bridges does not work, although support says it works. So I suggest that Athom engineers should have a look at the HomeWizard and ICS-2000 design. And maybe introduce the possibility of an external antenne. Or add support for RFXcomm for Homey Pro. As there are not yet 1 to 1 Zigbee/Z-Wave replacements for all 433 devices. ---
**Author:** ![Henk\_Renting](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/henk_renting/32/87634_2.png) [@Henk\_Renting](https://community.homey.app/u/Henk_Renting)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/2 "2023-08-26T14:14:42Z")
What doesn’t work when you try to switch the device to the antenna of your Homey Bridge? It can be found in the advanced settings of the device. And what device are you trying to add/operate with Homey? ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2023, 5:02pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/3 "2023-08-26T17:02:20Z")
It is only possible to select the transmission antenna, not the receiving antenna. So sensors like AWST-6000, APIR-2150, AMST-606 and thermometers TS34C can only communicate with Homey Pro, not the satellite bridge. These devices only work within a few meters away from Homey Pro. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/4 "2023-08-27T00:50:32Z")
You can only select the transmit antenna at the moment ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/3X/d/e/de15b5cb77dffba7875ee06df959752ed2afab61.jpeg) > [@Addig Homey Bridge as a extender to Home Pro 2023?](https://community.homey.app/t/addig-homey-bridge-as-a-extender-to-home-pro-2023/77588/64): > > Athom support replied to a user a while ago, it’s indeed only possible to select the transmitting antenna for 433MHz in Satellite mode; Choosing / selecting which antenna should process a received signal from device Y is not possible yet. The bridge as Satellite can NOT be used yet as 433MHz receiver Here’s that particular post in this thread In English: It is true that at this moment the Bridge cannot yet be selected as a receiver. Development is aware of this, and for now it has been bui… . > [@Rmb](#): > > I suggest that Athom engineers should have a look at the HomeWizard and ICS-2000 design. This is a user forum, suggestions to Athom go to support: [Support | Homey](https://homey.app/support) ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 8:07am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/5 "2023-08-27T08:07:33Z")
I know. But I cannot believe I am the only one. And this is “Ideas & Suggestions”, isn’t? I don’t think it is a good idea to have a support channel and a user forum, as discussion and information are in two places. Otherwise you would have known, that despite al the information you give, support still believes that satellites extend the receiving capabilities of Homey Pro. Nice for Athom, as they can hide information they do not like. So another suggestion is to share all available information and make support requests public. ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 8:55am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/6 "2023-08-27T08:55:24Z")
> [@Addig Homey Bridge as a extender to Home Pro 2023?](https://community.homey.app/t/addig-homey-bridge-as-a-extender-to-home-pro-2023/77588/64): > > Athom support replied to a user a while ago, it’s indeed only possible to select the transmitting antenna for 433MHz in Satellite mode; Choosing / selecting which antenna should process a received signal from device Y is not possible yet. The bridge as Satellite can NOT be used yet as 433MHz receiver Here’s that particular post in this thread In English: It is true that at this moment the Bridge cannot yet be selected as a receiver. Development is aware of this, and for now it has been bui… On 18 august 2023 the response from support to a user (me!) was: _Thank you for your reply._ - - _433 Mhz is working on Homey Bridge in Satellite Mode, and you can choose it as an extra antenna to send and receive 433 Mhz commands._ So contradictory information. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 10:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/7 "2023-08-27T10:29:34Z")
> [@Rmb](#): > > to a user (me!) Why do you start a new topic? ---
**Author:** ![Rmb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rmb/32/79135_2.png) [@Rmb](https://community.homey.app/u/Rmb)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2023, 10:42am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/8 "2023-08-27T10:42:38Z")
Because I want to know what other users are experiencing. And because I am frustrated that I don’t get the right answers from Athom, and that they leave me in the dark.I already send back the bridge once, bought another one to convince support it doesn’t work. I can understand not all things work right know. But I hate it when manufacturers are in denial. Will the bridge ever support 433 reception? If not, I will return the bridge again. And the Pro too? Just give me a glue/hinch. Is that so difficult? Or is Athom’s goal to fool customers and sell non-working bridges? ---
**Author:** ![Heula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heula/32/31852_2.png) [@Heula](https://community.homey.app/u/Heula)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 10:30am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/9 "2023-09-09T10:30:17Z")
I must say I agree that 433mhz like Klik aan klik uit is not working as well as it did with my Homey 2019. My Homey 2023 is on the same place the Homey 2019 was and a lot of Klik aan Klik uit devices just won’t work very well anymore. Even after removing and adding them again it is hit or miss if they will go on or off when a command is given. I’m thinking of buying a Homey Brigde for it’s satellite modus (Homey 2019 is useless for that) to expand the range. Buying a few Zigbee smart plugs does cost more. 🤪 I have asked Athom for improvement so we will see. ---
**Author:** ![To\_Lou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/to_lou/32/79159_2.png) [@To\_Lou](https://community.homey.app/u/To_Lou)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/10 "2023-09-09T11:13:35Z")
That’s not at all about reception range, is it? Transmission of 433 Mhz isn’t the issue here. 😇 ---
**Author:** ![To\_Lou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/to_lou/32/79159_2.png) [@To\_Lou](https://community.homey.app/u/To_Lou)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 11:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/11 "2023-09-09T11:15:20Z")
> [@Poor 433 Mhz reception](https://community.homey.app/t/poor-433-mhz-reception/87562/3): > > Agree to this. Sending is ok, but receiving 433 is really not ok. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Kawa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_kawa/32/173848_2.png) [@Peter\_Kawa](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_Kawa)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 11:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/12 "2023-09-09T11:51:28Z")
> [@Heula](#): > > Homey 2019 is useless for that Nope. Check out the set of Homesh apps! You can pair your KaKu stuff to the 2019 and control the flows on the 2023, and let the 2023 control the KaKu devices on the 2019 🙃🥳 > **[Homesh Controller | Homey](https://homey.app/en-gb/app/nl.qluster-it.HomeshController/Homesh-Controller/)** > > Control other Homey's > **[Homesh Satellite | Homey](https://homey.app/en-gb/app/nl.qluster-it.HomeshSatellite/Homesh-Satellite/)** > > Let's you control this Homey by another Homey > [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Homesh Controller & Homesh Satellite - Connect Homey Pro 2023 to Homey Pro for Led, Speaker, Zwave(satellite) and network resource](https://community.homey.app/t/app-pro-homesh-controller-homesh-satellite-connect-homey-pro-2023-to-homey-pro-for-led-speaker-zwave-satellite-and-network-resource/70369): > > If you want the development of two Apps to connect two Homey Pro’s, one as Controller and one as Satellite (for it’s LED, Speaker, ZWave, Network resource, etc), click the Like heart button! Wauw, 99 likes! i guess the Apps are going public! slight_smileThey are Live: [Homesh Controller](https://homey.app/a/nl.qluster-it.HomeshController/)[Homesh Satellite](https://homey.app/a/nl.qluster-it.HomeshSatellite/) Thanks @johan_bendz for the lovely icons and imagery! And thanks @Caseda for the excellent name! Hello all, With the news of the new Homey Pro Early 2023, there are … ---
**Author:** ![Heula](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/heula/32/31852_2.png) [@Heula](https://community.homey.app/u/Heula)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/13 "2023-09-09T13:43:43Z")
I had these apps installed but did not know this. Now it is too late because I sold my Homey 2019 for a fair price. ---
**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/14 "2023-09-09T19:18:30Z")
I fully agree with Rmb. For the last 5 years, I used Domoticz on a Rasberry Pi, connected to RFXtrx433 hardware from [rfxcom.com](http://rfxcom.com). My Kaku and weather hardware, all working on 433 MHz, worked rather good in my large house. Since implementing Homey Pro (2023) I noticed a short range for the 433 MHz stuff. 400 euros down the drain? I replaced all Kaku stuff with Z-wave which now works better than Kaku in the past but my weather sensors in the garden can no longer be received. Poor receiving range! As an RF engineer, I know what to try to get it to work, but all the locations where I placed the Homey Pro (except in the garden) were of lo luck. An external antenna on top of the Homey Pro would help … ---
**Author:** ![robertklep](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/robertklep/32/160628_2.png) [@robertklep](https://community.homey.app/u/robertklep)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 6:35am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/15 "2023-09-10T06:35:27Z")
Did you try placing Homey upside down? ---
**Author:** ![Bernd\_Gaykema](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/bernd_gaykema/32/112153_2.png) [@Bernd\_Gaykema](https://community.homey.app/u/Bernd_Gaykema)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2023, 7:29am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/16 "2023-09-10T07:29:18Z")
Yes, and also placed to the wall (so vertical) and turning around to find the best position. Probably too much RF noise inside the Homey with processors and antennas so close to each other. ---
**Author:** ![Lacobo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lacobo/32/154741_2.png) [@Lacobo](https://community.homey.app/u/Lacobo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/17 "2023-09-12T11:04:31Z")
It might help to add a wire to the 433 antenna. That works from both sides: I soldered a wire to a KAKU light sensor antenna (inside the AWST-6000) and wrapped it a few rounds into the housing and it now works flawless. So it might help to add a wire to the 433 antenna in the Homey Pro '23. If only the thing wasn’t too expensive to void the warranty 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Mike1233](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/mike1233/32/20991_2.png) [@Mike1233](https://community.homey.app/u/Mike1233)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 3:03pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/18 "2023-09-17T15:03:21Z")
@Lacobo Adding just a wire as an antenna is not the best way. It depends on the length of the wire if it works or not. As far as I know the antenna for 433Mhz should be 6.5 inches, or 16.5 cm. ---
**Author:** ![Lacobo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/lacobo/32/154741_2.png) [@Lacobo](https://community.homey.app/u/Lacobo)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/19 "2023-09-17T18:41:27Z")
Thanks for the info Mike. Still haven’t decided to do the mod. ---
**Author:** ![groteberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/groteberg/32/79236_2.png) [@groteberg](https://community.homey.app/u/groteberg)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034/20 "2023-09-18T13:04:57Z")
Similar issues here, but reception seems to differ per type of Klikaanklikuit device. I have very, very old devices, hidden on the 3rd floor under my home roof, that work perfectly. Because they worked perfectly with Homey, I bought some brand new power plugs (APC3-2300R) that are installed with 3-5 meter from my Homey Pro '23 without much interference, and they hardly work. And there’s one specific plug in the garden that always goes on with Homey, but never turns off. All on 433 MHz. [Next page](https://community.homey.app/t/rf-433-mhz-receive-range-disappointing/88034.md?page=2)