# Presence detection recommendation

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [January 21, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557 "2019-01-21T09:22:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/62 "2019-03-16T19:53:42Z")

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Just with the beacon app

> **[Beacon | Homey](https://homey.app/en-us/app/com.koktail.beacon/Beacon/)**
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> Detect your presence with BLE beacons

> [@\[APP\]\[Pro\] Beacon - Detect your presence with BLE beacons](https://community.homey.app/t/beacon-an-app-for-presence-detection-using-ble-beacons/3550):
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> [image] Beacon Links: Introduction This app integrate the basic flows for BLE beacons into Homey. Once the app is installed it will do a discovery of BLE devices, after a short adjustable timeout it wil keep discovering. After each discovery the app compares the found devices with the one paired. If the beacon is not found within the new “discovered list” the beacon is changed in state. For filtering out false positives there is a verification amount inside or outside the range available in…

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**Author:** ![JeeS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jees/32/1015_2.png) [@JeeS](https://community.homey.app/u/JeeS)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/63 "2019-03-17T12:39:21Z")

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Hi Jackass,

First create an flow in Homey similar to the picture below.

 ![IFTTT%20flow](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/4/47840c3e454c7c5d07ecb51c9bf6e54c36b38d80.jpeg)  
Then create a applet in IFTTT similar to the picture attached and connect is to the Homey flow.  
 ![IFTTT%20applet](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/2/2850ef79ada4f374468d79ab111c3277cdc27753.jpeg)

Create 2 similar flows and applets, one for entering the area and one for leaving the area.

That’s it, hope it clear with this, in case of more questions, please ask.

JeeS

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 5:43am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/64 "2019-05-02T05:43:31Z")

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Does IFTTT flows using Homey still work for anyone?

It used to work but stop working in the last few days.

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/65 "2019-05-10T04:40:46Z")

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![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/uploads/athom/original/2X/8/89bf6d4aae0ed5b182d6d5e382db9c95d35c76e2.jpeg)

Still works like a charm. Perhaps it has lost the connection? Try to reconnect it again.

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:21am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/66 "2019-05-10T05:21:06Z")

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I think it’s because I’m still on 1.5 and they did something to IFTTT recently?

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:59am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/67 "2019-05-10T05:59:23Z")

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Might be indeed. I have updated from day 1 on to V2. Did had other issues but those have been fixed.

Ready for the big update, that’s the question 😉

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/68 "2019-05-10T07:58:35Z")

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Was waiting for some of the apps to be updated but I now see smarter presence has been updated… Add the Google assistant native support that came in today, I think I won’t be holding out much longer… 2 weeks more I think before i update.

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/69 "2019-05-10T08:24:49Z")

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Ok cool!  
Non of the presence solution/apps worked for me. I’’m using ifttt app for geo/location presence.

Have to install it on every phone but hey it works like a charm.

Several ways to Rome!

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 3:48pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/70 "2019-05-22T15:48:18Z")

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I updated to 2.0. it’s ok now

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/71 "2019-05-22T18:41:08Z")

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Do you mean an android phone can act as a beacon?

I dont really feel like carrying around another beacon.

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/72 "2019-05-22T18:41:29Z")

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And what do you use for presence detection now?  
My IFTTT setup works awesome! Thanks and credits to @JeeS

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/73 "2019-05-22T18:49:02Z")

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I’m using smarter presence aka wifi AND addition check if door  
open timer is running.

Still not perfect. Eg. My wife was not using her phone and her phone  
cut off wifi (android doze , I’ve tried disabling but ).

Normally that wouldnt trigger away presence but I happen to open the door to throw some rubbish and as timer was running she was marked  
away.

I cant use geofencing functions cos I live in a appartment, not good idea to trigger home based on location…

So my thinking is either

a) I use wifi for marking home and location for marking away

or

b) investigate blue tooth solutions

or somehow combine bluetooth + wifi + location?

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/74 "2019-05-22T19:09:24Z")

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Can’t use geofence because bad gps connection? I would advice to give it a try because perhaps it will remember last location check which means it will probably work.

A - sounds like an option but requires some smart flows I assume.

B - bluetooth, no clue

Other option might be to buy some tokens for the family ? But is not really smart…

I would give IFTTT a try. For example: when I turn of my phone (so no gps anymore) I am still marked as home 🙂

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2019, 7:36pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/75 "2019-05-22T19:36:35Z")

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As far as i know not!

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 5:49am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/76 "2019-05-23T05:49:21Z")

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Not bad GPS, GPS is inexact, I dont want Homey to mark me home while I’m still downstairs in the lift or something. I have tried IFTTT many times…

Sure A need smart flows… it’s not difficult, I just got the idea recently. Wifi to mark home, and when leave location mark away. The later will have some delay but its okay since my current method already has some delay anyway.

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**Author:** ![JackDaniel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackdaniel/32/11278_2.png) [@JackDaniel](https://community.homey.app/u/JackDaniel)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/77 "2019-05-23T06:14:47Z")

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i use a beacon (g-tag from gigaset) on the keychain with the beacon app, works perfectly

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:50am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/78 "2019-05-23T09:50:27Z")

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nice except with smart locks I have no need for keys or keychains  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/79 "2019-05-23T09:57:14Z")

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Then make it an earring! 😂

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:14am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/80 "2019-05-23T11:14:57Z")

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any cheap yet reliable beacons to recommend?

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**Author:** ![Daniel\_S](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/daniel_s/32/24881_2.png) [@Daniel\_S](https://community.homey.app/u/Daniel_S)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/81 "2019-05-23T11:16:47Z")

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I ordered different from aliexpress from 1-3 usd. Will test as soon as it arrives.

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