# Presence detection recommendation

**URL:** <https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557>\
**Category:** Questions & Help\
**Created:** [January 21, 2019, 9:22am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557 "2019-01-21T09:22:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dave\_V](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/dave_v/32/6563_2.png) [@Dave\_V](https://community.homey.app/u/Dave_V)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 9:46am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/41 "2019-02-25T09:46:37Z")

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> Hi guys, the latest Homey App update has some fixes for the home/away function. On my phone (iPhone X) it works most of the time, but the iPhone 7s of my wife does not. The system just not detect her coming home… Leaving seems to work fine.

I have the same problem, on my phone as the admin user everything works, on another phone the coming home is not working, leaving is ok.

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**Author:** ![VictorvanHillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victorvanhillo/32/8689_2.png) [@VictorvanHillo](https://community.homey.app/u/VictorvanHillo)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2019, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/42 "2019-02-25T13:23:45Z")

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This never seems to work for me as well. I am always @Home it simply never works.  
My wife’s iPhone 10 has the same problem, she seems to be always at home as well.

Yes all settings are correct like the “privacy” settings etc. Why is it so hard to get this working correctly? Pretty useless atm.

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**Author:** ![Tasz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/tasz/32/17196_2.png) [@Tasz](https://community.homey.app/u/Tasz)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/43 "2019-02-27T20:11:12Z")

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Same problem here. I’m always home  
Samsung S8+

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**Author:** ![Gerard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/gerard/32/8846_2.png) [@Gerard](https://community.homey.app/u/Gerard)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/44 "2019-02-27T20:26:14Z")

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You might want to try changing to the community written “Location and Presence” app for the Homey and the “owntracks” application on your phone. I gave up on the native app for a reliable solution.

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**Author:** ![Ype](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/ype/32/8406_2.png) [@Ype](https://community.homey.app/u/Ype)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2019, 9:27pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/45 "2019-02-27T21:27:25Z")

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Maybe a virtual switch and add it in homekit  
Create an automation in HomeKit  
Turn of the virtual switch when wife is leaving  
Turn on when entering  
Then create flow :  
When - (name switch) is on  
Than - mark as home (name wife)

Homey Wil know when your wife is home  
And you can creatie an “away” flow when leaving  
Also create an automation in HomeKit of course

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**Author:** ![MasothU](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/masothu/32/9083_2.png) [@MasothU](https://community.homey.app/u/MasothU)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/46 "2019-02-28T07:51:04Z")

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A week ago I updated my Galaxy S8 to Android 9. Since then the presence detection doesn’t work anymore. Not even sporadically.  
Before that it worked really well with the new Homey and Homey app version. I was glad not to have to make the detour via Tasker and webhooks anymore, which was not so reliable.  
Since it worked flawlessly in Android 8 I think it is a problem with Android 9. I’ve also already turned off all the battery savers.

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**Author:** ![Otter](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/otter/32/11467_2.png) [@Otter](https://community.homey.app/u/Otter)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:10am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/47 "2019-02-28T08:10:34Z")

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homey v2.0 here and android 8 (samsung S8) not working here also

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**Author:** ![VictorvanHillo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/victorvanhillo/32/8689_2.png) [@VictorvanHillo](https://community.homey.app/u/VictorvanHillo)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 8:45am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/48 "2019-02-28T08:45:57Z")

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I have a Mate 20 Pro with Android 9…same problem, never worked.

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**Author:** ![Blarp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/blarp/32/10278_2.png) [@Blarp](https://community.homey.app/u/Blarp)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 9:15am UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/49 "2019-02-28T09:15:03Z")

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> [@Anwesenheitserkennung/Präsenz Android 9](https://community.homey.app/t/anwesenheitserkennung-prasenz-android-9/9620/7):
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> Android 9 introduces new permission rules regarding wifi scans and other sensors. Wifi is used in the location accuracy high mode (that’s also renamed in android 9). All apps then have to acquire those new permissions. You could make an issue for this: [https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us/requests/new](https://support.athom.com/hc/en-us/requests/new) (it’s English but if you write Deutsch they will probably understand) Be as elaborate as you can, when did this start, what have you tried, homey app version Homey firmware version, android vers…

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**Author:** ![Groundhog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@Groundhog](https://community.homey.app/u/Groundhog)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2019, 12:24pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/50 "2019-02-28T12:24:11Z")

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agreed. was not a 9.0 issue

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/51 "2019-03-16T13:22:15Z")

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I have the Homey app installed on a phone and a tablet (as a dashboard).

When i leave home and take my phone with me but i leave my tablet at home… What does Homey think?

Will it mark me as away or am i still at home?  
Anyone experience with this setup?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/52 "2019-03-16T15:31:06Z")

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You can switch presence on/off for each familymember. Maybe there is the solution

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**Author:** ![JeeS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jees/32/1015_2.png) [@JeeS](https://community.homey.app/u/JeeS)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/54 "2019-03-16T15:54:03Z")

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I use the IFTTT location applet, works perfect for me.

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/55 "2019-03-16T18:45:07Z")

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That is indeed a solution, however one has to switch manually every time one comes home or leave home. In my opinion this should go automatically (via geo or fixed ip/mac adrdress link in router).

Thanks for sharing thoughts!

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/56 "2019-03-16T18:46:35Z")

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Possible to share some setup screeners?

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/57 "2019-03-16T18:59:01Z")

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Which ones do you use?  
I need one for leaving my home/location and one for entering my home/location…

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**Author:** ![Rocodamelshekima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/rocodamelshekima/32/8209_2.png) [@Rocodamelshekima](https://community.homey.app/u/Rocodamelshekima)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 7:00pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/58 "2019-03-16T19:00:51Z")

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Impatient aye?

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/59 "2019-03-16T19:11:43Z")

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Fanatic 😉

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**Author:** ![Peter\_de\_Vos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/peter_de_vos/32/151925_2.png) [@Peter\_de\_Vos](https://community.homey.app/u/Peter_de_Vos)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 7:14pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/60 "2019-03-16T19:14:06Z")

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I use tile pro beacons and the beacon app. 100% solid!

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**Author:** ![Jackass](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex025/user_avatar/community.homey.app/jackass/32/145293_2.png) [@Jackass](https://community.homey.app/u/Jackass)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2019, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.homey.app/t/presence-detection-recommendation/7557/61 "2019-03-16T19:44:13Z")

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Searched it, that’s with a token? [Tile beacon](https://www.bol.com/nl/p/tile-pro-black-urb-1-pack/9200000098273129/?Referrer=ADVNLGOO002015-G-60338075965-S-566733496748-9200000098273129&gclid=CjwKCAjwvbLkBRBbEiwAChbckW_4CQLFQDMdRTwS7whJDyFx5wsnlZrx7iczqAFohQLfgj7PT59LCxoCDvQQAvD_BwE)

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